AMIGATHEBEST

I also agree pc number 1 looks like a better pc ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

Like ears said. If you use a sub mostly for music then you may want the RSW. If you use it mainly for HT, or need a sub that goes really low go for the SVS ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

I didnt mean that all of them do I just meant that some do ( mine included ). Im sure that the great majority of them do not. ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

The speakers arent bad by any means but they are known to give out after a couple weeks. If you want to be sure they wont save up a little more and get the 5.1's but make sure your sound card can handle them. ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

i just received a free replacemnt subwoofer after the amp in mine died so they work fine (for now) ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

quote: Originally posted by halfadeck: My question is whats the difference in sound quality between the pc cs series? The CS series is about one or two db louder because if the higher power amp (190 vs. 350 watts) ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

i have that tv. the mitsubishi is very nice ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

1. yes my website sucks i dont even know why i listed it it a waste of a perfectly crappy domain name 2. your on a computer right now 3. i actually DID know what tubes are P.S. how can anyone call computers evil? ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

VACUUM TUBES!?!?! i know what they are but had no idea that they would be usen in high end audio eqiptment. ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

what is a "tube". all i hear when im in the klispch forums is "tube this tube that". i know its a dumb question but what are they and why are they so good? ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

cherry ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

any SVS sub will give you kick *** bass and if you want a sub that can go reaaaaaaaaaaaaaalyyyyyyyyy low for not to much $ get the 16-46PC. its flat to like 20HZ and SVS says it can go doiwn to 10HZ (WOW). or if you want REALLY powerful bass get the svs ultra. two svs ultras will be more powerful than the velodyne HGS-18. ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

im sorry i think thats a dead link http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/macsbit_sux/lst?.dir=/pics i think the one works ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

i found a pair of old speakers on my attic. http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/bcdff297/bc/pics/speeksgrilloff.jpg?bchP.p8AOeckc7wT thats a picture of them. they have 10 inch woofers and are made by advent. does anyone know if these are any good. i havent had a chance to hook them up but iuf there good i thow em' in my room. ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

hehe my dad insists Bose is the best audio company in the world (i think he's brainwashed by the ads) ------------------ Receiver:Pioneer VSX-D850S Display: Mitsubishi 46 inch HDTV Fronts: RF-3II Center: RC-3II Surrounds: RS-3II Sub: SVS 20-39CS+ w/ Samson S-1000 Amplifier

after a ton of thinking I came up with this. $539 RF-3 $359 RS-3 $224 RC-3 $999 SVS CS-Plus Model 20-39CS+ w/ Samson 1000 amp $344 Pioneer VSX-D850S $200 shipping $2665 Grand Total if anything there looks sub par tell me.

also svs says the PC models have a shorter tube making them a little bit (like 1 db)less powerful. they have shorter tube because they need room for the internal amp.

_ This message has been edited by AMIGATHEBEST on 01-22-2002 at 07:49 PM

THANKS MIKE!!!! you saved me about $400i added up all the prices and it comes to around 2300. thats pushing my budget but it was 2700 before!!

i think ill get the 20-39PC (powered). its like waaaaaaaaaaaaay stretching that $500 but i dont really have any other option. of they had places where you could buy these pother than SVS it would be fine. the KSW-15 retails for the exact same price as the 20-39PC but i found it new for $454

also how much can i pick up a used 200 watt amp for? i know the 16-46 is overkill but if you look at my first post thats exactly what i want!

i dont have the system yet. im going to buy all reference 3 klipsch but i have no idea what sub to get. i need it to be about $500. the reciever im planbning on getting puts out 110 watts per channel. i cant get one that puts out 150 per channel because that would cost to much. i think ill buy the svs and then buy the reciever from the dude that said he would sell it for $30.

so i could use an old reciever to get an extra 150 watts. that would be 260 watts would that be good?

i think ill buy the 16-46CS and run it off my reciever until i can afford an amp.

would the 16-46PC be better than a RSW-10?