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Bump for adjusted price. This is a solid value for an historic pair of Klipschorns and I hope someone on the forum steps up!

Hi AA7, Welcome to the forum. Klipschorns are exceptional and revealing speakers. They will let you hear greater realism in recorded sound than is possible with ordinary speakers. This is because each Klipschorn consists of three horns of different sizes enclosed in a corner cabinet, to cover the entire range of musical sound. Another way of describing a horn is to call it a "lens"--it literally magnifies the sound so you will hear more detail and more dynamic range in reproduced sound than you have heard before. Because these horns are very efficient at turning power into music, the Klipschorn can produce very realistic concert sound levels with only a few watts of power from your amplifier. They will also let you hear--in great detail--any shortcomings in your amplifier and your source material. This means you might hear mistakes in recordings you never knew existed, like items rattling in the studio, microphones being overloaded when a vocalist gets too close, smeared instrument sounds when a recording is poorly mixed, and much more. But when things are right you will have the opportunity to hear music like you are at the recording session and the musicians are playing in your room. Sound like fun? That's why I've been here for over 20 years. Every Klipschorn was a very expensive speaker at the time yours were purchased, and since 1963 was in the early days of 2-channel (stereo) high-fidelity, not many matched pairs of Klipschorns were purchased right away. I would check the serial numbers on the sticker of the lower bass bins on both cabinets and see how close the serial numbers are. Often a customer had a single Klipschorn in the late 1950's or early 1960's for listening to music in 1-channel (mono), and later when stereo became more popular, they ordered a second Klipschorn from the factory to match the cosmetics of the existing one. The serial numbers will tell the story. Have a great time here and enjoy the music! triceratops

Thanks, chronometers! But I should have said "Thanks for posting this link!" because we rarely see Klipschorns with composite wood midrange horns for sale as a pair, and I appreciate that you gave us the heads up!

I suspect these have either been out in the weather for a bit, or spent a long time in unheated storage. All the grills and frames are gone, along with the valuable original alnico woofers. Someone even removed the clear plexiglass badges which had engraved Klipschorn script logos. A potential buyer should inspect these cabinets for structural damage before purchase, because I think that discarding the grills and painting the backs with white house paint was done to hide what these speakers have been through.

At one time I owned both the Forte Audio Model 3 and its sibling, the Forte Audio Model 1a (which is a Class A 50 wpc power amp). One very cool feature of these two amp models is that the Forte Audio Model 3 can be converted to a Model 1a and vice versa. I never tried it because I already owned both amps, but it is something that Nelson Pass has written about. It's worth noting here, because the high efficiency of Klipsch speakers make Class A amps of moderate power an attractive option for many Klipsch fans. My Forte Audio 1a is now owned locally by a close friend, and he uses it to power his 1977 Klipschorns (also purchased from me) with great results. https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/converting-forte-model-3-to-model-1a.273990/ In summary, these are unusually versatile, excellent sounding amps! GLWS

In my experience, self-adhesive felt pads of about the same size as the glides will adhere to the glides tentatively--they can work if the speakers aren't moved around. But the reason you want felt pads is so you can easily move the speakers around! With most Klipsch speakers you'll want to experiment with positioning in the room by trial and error to get them dialed in. This is not the case with Klipschorns that don't have covered backs, as you are limited to pushing them into the corners of the room. But even with Klipschorns you might want to slide them out to vacuum the floor, dust off the surfaces inside the tophat, experiment with different speaker cables, check the seal of the cabinet to the corner, etc. The factory steel glides you pictured are made of shaped sheet metal with several sharp tangs protruding from the edge. The glides are hammered into the bottom of the cabinet. They can be removed with a small, sharp screwdriver forced under the glide around the edge to pry it off. Lay down the cabinet on the floor--use a thick pad on the floor to protect the cabinet and floor, and you may wish to remove the side grilles to avoid stressing them. You can save the factory glides in a ziplock bag and reinstall them at any time. With the glides off, you can use felt pads that have a larger surface area than the glides to get better adhesion. Posts have been made on the forum about using rubber gripper pads on the bottom of Klipschorns rather that felt pads. The idea with these is to help position the Klipschorns securely into the corner rather than to make it easier to slide them around. This would be a different approach to take that would also protect your floors, like the felt pads.

1. Dear Hugot--If this a sale is not yours and the item is not being sold by another Klipsch forum member, it belongs in the Alerts section, not the Garage Sale section. 2. If this item was posted in the Alerts section, a clear-eyed member might point out that the eBay seller has 3 feedback posts as a buyer, but zero feedback as a seller. Hopefully, anyone reading this will connect the dots to understand what that means.

I know it's usually unknown on Alert threads whether items are sold, let alone for the Forum member to have time to update the post here. I really do appreciate that members post links for those ads here, and often billybob even uploads the photos! A month ago I responded to a Craigslist ad for a pedal steel guitar and the poster never replied back. Then while researching the guitar on the Steel Guitar Forum, I saw the proud new owner post pictures, as he was justifiably happy about his score. But the seller's ad is still up--he sold it in a day, and apparently can't be bothered to delete the ad. I guess I'll shut up now and file this topic under insignificant things I shouldn't be stressing about. 🤪

I've noticed that in recent months the Alerts and Garage Sale sections have had an uptick in "zombie" threads (long dead threads brought back to life and bumped to the top of the list by someone posting on them). The folks responsible for resurrecting these threads are typically newbies with a post history of one. I suspect they are often flippers scouring the internet for some bargain they can buy and resell at a profit. If posters would mark the title of the thread "sold" when an item is no longer available, that would go a long way to eliminating the problem. But we live in an imperfect world, and sometimes ads on Craigslist that are referenced in the Alerts section simply expire, leaving no clue as to the eventual outcome. On some other special interest forums, new members are unable to post in the classified section until they have a certain minimum number of posts on their profile. A few forums are even more strict, with new members being unable to see the classified section until they have a minimum number of posts. Although both of these approaches would add more complications to running the board, I think either strategy would effectively eliminate the problem. What do other forum members and moderators think? Am I the only forum member irritated by having to wade through the growing pile of zombie thread carcasses?

Barbie, thanks to you for all your efforts to make this happen and to the 763 (and counting) Klipsch enthusiasts who stepped up to fund this worthwhile project! I'm a little astonished by the late arrival of crappers on this thread, but I guess it comes with the territory!

You're right, they changed back again! They were the higher price yesterday, but they must have decided to restart the sale. According to the Newegg website, it's their biggest selling speaker!

This sale expired on Sunday, February 5th and now the price has risen from $195 to $239--admittedly still a very good deal. Thanks to jjptkd for posting this alert. I haven't heard this model Klipsch before, but I still bought 2 pairs at the sale price and sent the speakers to some good friends. It's always fun to convert another music lover to Klipsch!

No, it's the same scammer--although they keep making small changes to the ads. A helpful craigslister has been tracking the ads and counter-posting: https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/ele/7564269354.html I think that's part of the reason for posting the ad in a different location than the item is located--trying to reach someone who will feel compelled to send money instead of asking for a demo. Another oddity of these ads is the text comparing Heresys to Belles

I forgot to mention for those not familiar with Costco, that you have to be a member to buy most of the items there--or have a helpful friend who is a member.

Another possible solution for those searching for a comfortable recliner that is actually a well-made designer product, check this one out: https://www.costco.com/oslo-leather-recliner-%26-ottoman.product.100676823.html This recliner was developed by the design center of Ekornes parent company, and it has a similar shape and feature set to that familiar brand. The money savings come from a reduced number (four) of color choices red, grey, blue, and green (all in leather only), a single size (probably in between the two Ekornes sizes), and manufacture in Thailand. But this is not a cheap knock-off, it's made with high-quality materials and workmanship like the Ekornes-branded product. The recliner and ottoman set is sold by Costco for $1000, but in the past few years they have occasionally offered it on sale for $800. Some Costco stores have stocked the item in the past, but I've never seen one on display. So when an online sale came up, I pulled the trigger. A few years ago there were complaints about the chairs arriving broken due to inadequate packaging, but the packaging is now superb and my recliner was delivered without a scratch. It's a great chair and should fit most--I'm 6 feet and 185 lbs and I'm very comfortable in it. But if you're a bigger-sized person, it may not be large enough.

Welcome to the Klipsch Forum, Pattil24! I'm not an expert when it comes to University Sound speakers, but I'd like to clarify some misconceptions, then hopefully address your questions. 1. University Sound speakers often don't have a model name displayed, especially if the cabinets are homebuilt to University Sound plans. So it stands to reason when someone sees a big polished plate holding two L-pad controls and silkscreened with "Acoustic Baton" that they might assume this is the model name of the speaker. Instead, it is the name University Sound gave to the controls themselves: you use the "Acoustic Baton" controls to adjust the sound of the speaker like a conductor uses a baton to control and adjust the sound of an orchestra. So Acoustic Baton is NOT a model of University Sound speaker, and this crossover control section can be mounted in the cabinets of MANY different models of University Sound speakers. 2. I suspect the speakers cited in the original post were University Classics based on the comments made, but I am just guessing since the link no longer works. The University Classic was a three-way speaker with metal horns for tweeters and squawkers and a folded wooden horn for the woofer. It was clearly intended to compete with the Klipschorn. 3. Pattil24, to determine what model of University speakers you have, please take photos of the cabinets and measure the external cabinet dimensions. Then post them on this thread, and forum members will reply. Best in horns, triceratops @Pattil24

The same ad ran in Portland, OR last week. The seller did not respond to inquiries. Folks are getting better at identifying these scam ads, so it seems the scammer is posting a wider variety of ads in more places. I would think this level of fraud would provoke some consequences for the scammer, but maybe he lives on a pirate ship, uses VPN, and has a Swiss bank account.

Incomplete and misleading, but congrats on upping your post count.

Note that the woofers have been changed. I can't read the dust cap logo, but possibly some kind of car stereo sub-woofer? Unknown if the tweets and squawks are intact, but I wouldn't count on it. Taking this into account, these could still be a decent deal. But as the Klipsch Heritage buying frenzy continues, the message to any newbies reading this is to look before you leap.

Thanks Dude, point taken. I have edited my comment to reflect that I don't think forumites should throw down big bucks for these before inspecting them. But if they go for hundreds instead of thousands, just rolling the dice makes sense.

I would suggest seeing (and smelling) these before making a high-dollar bid. The inch of dust is one thing, but these are in a carpeted basement. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a leaky carpeted basement, because the speakers are precariously propped up on bricks and there's a blobby dark stain inside the mouth of one bass horn.

I am surprised no one has responded to your questions yet, so I'll jump in. These speakers are circa 1966 Klipschorns, often referred to as "corner horns". The design uses a folded bass horn to allow the speaker to have great clarity, efficiency, and space-saving (if the horn wasn't folded it would be much larger). The model number of this pair is KDFR, which stands for Klipschorn Decorator Fir Raw. Decorator models have no fancy veneer or grill cloth, so that a person decorating the house interior would select paint, veneer, fabric, or even wallpaper (yes, I've actually seen it) to coordinate the appearance of the speaker with the room. This pair is made of fir plywood and is unpainted so it is described as fir raw. This was the most stripped-down, basic model you could buy at the time, but it sounded just as good as the Klipschorns with fancier cosmetics of that day. These decorators were an ideal choice for an audiophile on a budget, who didn't want to compromise performance. Even though the speakers were originally built in 1966, your photos reveal that some updates have occurred over time. The photos show that the high-frequency driver (labeled K-77-M) and the mid-frequency driver (labeled K-55-M) are newer drivers, and from the labeling are genuine, factory-tested replacements. We can also see that at least some of the wiring has been updated with newer wire. What we can't see is if the drivers in both speaker cabinets match, and if other components (like the low-frequency drivers and the crossover networks) have also been updated. The value of the speakers is a difficult question to answer, as it depends on many factors like the local market, sales venue, condition, and many other variables. There are many things we don't know from these photos, but my arbitrary guess is that the speakers are probably worth somewhere between $1000 and $1800. I hope others will offer a more accurate assessment, and more photos will definitely help. Good luck with your sale, and note that there is a "garage section" of the forum where you are able advertise the speakers when you are ready to sell.