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  1. The reference cited is confusing, but it says the H-700 was introduced in 1967 with a K-22 woofer, not that the K-22 woofer was introduced in 1967. The K-22 designation for 12" woofers was used long before 1967, and there were multiple suppliers over the years. As jjptkd points out, these are not H-700's because they have the smaller 1000 horn. The Klipsch engraved plexiglas badges predate pie slice badges, and the venerable vintage grill cloth matches the grills on some 1960 Klipschorns I once owned.
  2. Shout out to jjptkd, avguytx, and woofers and tweeters! Thanks to the three of you for your thoughtful suggestions and encouragement! Since I posted my request for CF-4 grills I have been in close contact with the prior owner of these Epic CF-4 speakers. As luck would have it, yesterday the owner's wife was finally able to locate the original grills for the speakers stashed behind the door of their at-home office! I am really stoked that the grills surfaced after everyone involved thought they were gone for good. They are a bit scruffy from being stuffed between the door and the wall for a few years, but nothing that can't be put right with some new grill cloth--which will definitely be easier than fabricating new grills from scratch. Thanks to all of you for your help! What's coming next is a group listening session comparing a pair of Generation 1 Epic CF-4's with a pair of Generation 3 Epic CF-4's. That will be fun!
  3. Found! Grills for Epic CF-4. Details on post in Garage Sale. Thanks everyone! Most owners of Klipsch Epic CF-4 speakers are probably running them without grills, and I'm hoping someone out there will agree to sell me their grills! Why? There's no way I can convince my wife that my Epic CF-4 speakers are living-room-ready without grills to cover the exposed cones, and this particular pair lost their grills long ago. I realize this may be futile. Others have tried and failed, but I've gotta try anyway! Please help a Klipsch brother out and sell me your grills! Even if the price would be impractical, I'm willing to talk about it. Thanks all, triceratops
  4. Grills have been located! Scroll down for the story. Thanks, everyone. Most owners of Klipsch Epic CF-4 speakers are probably running them without grills, and I'm hoping someone out there will agree to sell me their grills! Why? There's no way I can convince my wife that my Epic CF-4 speakers are living-room-ready without grills to cover the exposed cones, and this particular pair lost their grills long ago. I realize this may be futile. Others have tried and failed, but I've gotta try anyway! Please help a Klipsch brother out and sell me your grills! Even if the price would be impractical, I'm willing to talk about it. Thanks all, triceratops This was originally posted in Alerts, but it was suggested that it should be in Garage Sale, so here it is. Not trying to spam the Forum.
  5. Grills have been found. Details in post on Garage Sale. Thanks everyone! Most owners of Klipsch Epic CF-4 speakers are probably running them without grills, and I'm hoping someone out there will agree to sell me their grills! Why? There's no way I can convince my wife that my Epic CF-4 speakers are living-room-ready without grills to cover the exposed cones, and this particular pair lost their grills long ago. I realize this may be futile. Others have tried and failed, but I've gotta try anyway! Please help a Klipsch brother out and sell me your grills! Thanks all, triceratops Q: Why is a 3-horned dinosaur playing with speakers that only have one horn per cabinet? A: Pushing the boundaries, before I'm extinct!
  6. Hi davis419b, You've repeated this statement and it is written in the seller's description, but it would be helpful--to those of us that have experience with raw Klipsch veneers--to understand why you say "these never need oiling". I've offered some circumstances (like lacquer or other sealant applied) that could explain your statement in my previous post above. If the above scenarios don't fit, another possibility might be that the seller is the original owner and the cabinets have never been finished. This is a legitimate choice and I've done it myself with several pairs of Klipsch raw speakers that I previously owned. A description like "the cabinets are still raw and have never been finished" helps us all better understand the condition of the speakers. Thanks for any additional clarity you can bring to the description of these Klipschorns, and thanks for finding this ad and posting it here. Best in horns, triceratops
  7. Walnut Raw was a less expensive finish than Walnut Oiled or Walnut Lacquered. It is not actually "rare", it's just a configuration of lumber-core plywood with fancy veneer but without the laborious factory hand-finishing on the veneer. We see vintage Klipsch products in Oregon with this level of finish from time to time, because there was a savvy dealer nearby who recognized this finish offered a very good value in the Klipsch catalog and sometimes ordered products that way to make the best Klipsch offerings more affordable. I can dig out some old catalogs if people are interested, but it was priced above Birch Raw but below Walnut Oiled. Like many Birch Raw Klipsch products, most of these Walnut Raw speakers have been eventually finished by the owner, which is what this set looks like. If the original owner finished the Walnut with lacquer, polyurethane, etc, the poster is correct that they would never need oiling. But if they finished with oil, then it would need occasional oiling--just like the factory oiled ones. As with Birch Raw, the quality of the owner-applied finish varies quite a bit. I once owned an early 1960's Mahogany Raw single Klipschorn that was finished by the owner Prima-Vera style, a bleached finish similar to a classic limed "TV" Gibson Les Paul from the 1950's. Now that was special!
  8. . Will this be your first pair of Klipsch speakers? If they are stock, then they will have the K77 tweeters , K55V drivers on the K700 horn < that is for mid-range frequencies , and either the K22 or K42 woofers , for the bass. And the cross-over networks might need new capacitors and there is only one place you can buy them. I love this--thanks for some much needed comic relief, W&T!!!
  9. Mine arrived in Oregon two days ago, on Saturday. As others have said, it is beautifully composed, printed, and packaged! Copious thanks to the Barbie and Paul team for making this happen through clear vision, lots of hard work, and consistent communications! I've never participated in a Kickstarter project before--what a great experience!
  10. Bump for adjusted price. This is a solid value for an historic pair of Klipschorns and I hope someone on the forum steps up!
  11. Hi AA7, Welcome to the forum. Klipschorns are exceptional and revealing speakers. They will let you hear greater realism in recorded sound than is possible with ordinary speakers. This is because each Klipschorn consists of three horns of different sizes enclosed in a corner cabinet, to cover the entire range of musical sound. Another way of describing a horn is to call it a "lens"--it literally magnifies the sound so you will hear more detail and more dynamic range in reproduced sound than you have heard before. Because these horns are very efficient at turning power into music, the Klipschorn can produce very realistic concert sound levels with only a few watts of power from your amplifier. They will also let you hear--in great detail--any shortcomings in your amplifier and your source material. This means you might hear mistakes in recordings you never knew existed, like items rattling in the studio, microphones being overloaded when a vocalist gets too close, smeared instrument sounds when a recording is poorly mixed, and much more. But when things are right you will have the opportunity to hear music like you are at the recording session and the musicians are playing in your room. Sound like fun? That's why I've been here for over 20 years. Every Klipschorn was a very expensive speaker at the time yours were purchased, and since 1963 was in the early days of 2-channel (stereo) high-fidelity, not many matched pairs of Klipschorns were purchased right away. I would check the serial numbers on the sticker of the lower bass bins on both cabinets and see how close the serial numbers are. Often a customer had a single Klipschorn in the late 1950's or early 1960's for listening to music in 1-channel (mono), and later when stereo became more popular, they ordered a second Klipschorn from the factory to match the cosmetics of the existing one. The serial numbers will tell the story. Have a great time here and enjoy the music! triceratops
  12. Thanks, chronometers! But I should have said "Thanks for posting this link!" because we rarely see Klipschorns with composite wood midrange horns for sale as a pair, and I appreciate that you gave us the heads up!
  13. I suspect these have either been out in the weather for a bit, or spent a long time in unheated storage. All the grills and frames are gone, along with the valuable original alnico woofers. Someone even removed the clear plexiglass badges which had engraved Klipschorn script logos. A potential buyer should inspect these cabinets for structural damage before purchase, because I think that discarding the grills and painting the backs with white house paint was done to hide what these speakers have been through.
  14. At one time I owned both the Forte Audio Model 3 and its sibling, the Forte Audio Model 1a (which is a Class A 50 wpc power amp). One very cool feature of these two amp models is that the Forte Audio Model 3 can be converted to a Model 1a and vice versa. I never tried it because I already owned both amps, but it is something that Nelson Pass has written about. It's worth noting here, because the high efficiency of Klipsch speakers make Class A amps of moderate power an attractive option for many Klipsch fans. My Forte Audio 1a is now owned locally by a close friend, and he uses it to power his 1977 Klipschorns (also purchased from me) with great results. https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/converting-forte-model-3-to-model-1a.273990/ In summary, these are unusually versatile, excellent sounding amps! GLWS
  15. In my experience, self-adhesive felt pads of about the same size as the glides will adhere to the glides tentatively--they can work if the speakers aren't moved around. But the reason you want felt pads is so you can easily move the speakers around! With most Klipsch speakers you'll want to experiment with positioning in the room by trial and error to get them dialed in. This is not the case with Klipschorns that don't have covered backs, as you are limited to pushing them into the corners of the room. But even with Klipschorns you might want to slide them out to vacuum the floor, dust off the surfaces inside the tophat, experiment with different speaker cables, check the seal of the cabinet to the corner, etc. The factory steel glides you pictured are made of shaped sheet metal with several sharp tangs protruding from the edge. The glides are hammered into the bottom of the cabinet. They can be removed with a small, sharp screwdriver forced under the glide around the edge to pry it off. Lay down the cabinet on the floor--use a thick pad on the floor to protect the cabinet and floor, and you may wish to remove the side grilles to avoid stressing them. You can save the factory glides in a ziplock bag and reinstall them at any time. With the glides off, you can use felt pads that have a larger surface area than the glides to get better adhesion. Posts have been made on the forum about using rubber gripper pads on the bottom of Klipschorns rather that felt pads. The idea with these is to help position the Klipschorns securely into the corner rather than to make it easier to slide them around. This would be a different approach to take that would also protect your floors, like the felt pads.
  16. 1. Dear Hugot--If this a sale is not yours and the item is not being sold by another Klipsch forum member, it belongs in the Alerts section, not the Garage Sale section. 2. If this item was posted in the Alerts section, a clear-eyed member might point out that the eBay seller has 3 feedback posts as a buyer, but zero feedback as a seller. Hopefully, anyone reading this will connect the dots to understand what that means.
  17. I know it's usually unknown on Alert threads whether items are sold, let alone for the Forum member to have time to update the post here. I really do appreciate that members post links for those ads here, and often billybob even uploads the photos! A month ago I responded to a Craigslist ad for a pedal steel guitar and the poster never replied back. Then while researching the guitar on the Steel Guitar Forum, I saw the proud new owner post pictures, as he was justifiably happy about his score. But the seller's ad is still up--he sold it in a day, and apparently can't be bothered to delete the ad. I guess I'll shut up now and file this topic under insignificant things I shouldn't be stressing about. 🤪
  18. I've noticed that in recent months the Alerts and Garage Sale sections have had an uptick in "zombie" threads (long dead threads brought back to life and bumped to the top of the list by someone posting on them). The folks responsible for resurrecting these threads are typically newbies with a post history of one. I suspect they are often flippers scouring the internet for some bargain they can buy and resell at a profit. If posters would mark the title of the thread "sold" when an item is no longer available, that would go a long way to eliminating the problem. But we live in an imperfect world, and sometimes ads on Craigslist that are referenced in the Alerts section simply expire, leaving no clue as to the eventual outcome. On some other special interest forums, new members are unable to post in the classified section until they have a certain minimum number of posts on their profile. A few forums are even more strict, with new members being unable to see the classified section until they have a minimum number of posts. Although both of these approaches would add more complications to running the board, I think either strategy would effectively eliminate the problem. What do other forum members and moderators think? Am I the only forum member irritated by having to wade through the growing pile of zombie thread carcasses?
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