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I rechecked the tweeter wiring and it looks good. Pulled the crossovers and they don't look good. It appears the speakers were used for some time after the tweeter diaphragms bit the dust and the tweeter inductors got so hot they melted.
I'll be ordering new ones from Bob Crites. From what I've read they are great and will be a major upgrade. The bad part is they will cost more than what I paid for the speakers.
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Thanks! I'll double-check the leads.
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I replaced both diaphragms (ordered from Bob Crites) on the K-75 tweeters and they tested at 8.3 ohms. Connected green wire to + terminal and black wire to - terminal but I'm not getting sound out of either tweeter. Could the crossovers on both speakers have problems affecting the tweeters? The odds of that would seem to be low. Any ideas?
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1 hour ago, wvu80 said:
Average selling price according to my numbers is $542 for Condition 8/10. Slight condition issues or not, you got what all of us want, a deal.
You done good.
Thanks. I appreciate the information!
I'll message you the buy/sell information on the Heresy's I sold to get the Forte II's.
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16 hours ago, BlueHusky79 said:
They will provide you many years of terrific music. ENJOY!
16 hours ago, totalcomfort said:Congrats very nice.
14 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:Those look great and will sound just as good as they look.
Thanks! Looking forward to getting them set up in the living room with my Accuphase P-300/C-200/T-100 trio.
16 hours ago, wvu80 said:Agree, nice find at a good price. You mentioned the Seller was open to negotiation.
So, did you negotiate or did you pay his asking price?
(I track Heritage Sold prices)
I got him down to $300 initially and then $250 when I went to look at them. Based on their condition I think I got a good deal.
Cosmetically, I would rate them somewhere between 7/10 to maybe 8/10. It's hard to see in the pictures but there are some pretty bad burn or stain marks on the top of one cabinet and a small area on the other cabinet where the top and side pieces got wet and separated. Fortunately, it's only a few inches long and towards the back of the cabinet.
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11 minutes ago, BluBitRates said:
They look great, congradulations
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FWIW, they are definitely II's. Luckily, I was able to buy them even though two days had gone by since the ad was placed. I thought for sure I was going to miss out on them since I didn't have the cash to buy them but I decided to put my Heresy's up for sale to come up with the money.
They sold quick which was good but I was on pins and needles the whole day, worried that someone else would get the Forte's.
I was really surprised the seller still had them since he was very negotiable on the price. I was a little disappointed due to the cabinets having some flaws but it's nothing that can't be repaired. The main thing is all the drivers are working and they sound great.
A HUGE thanks to opusk2k9 for posting the ad for them!
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Thanks a lot for the replies. I really appreciate the feedback!
I disconnected the Heresy's and the amp runs fine without any speakers connected and does not go into overload, even after a couple of hours. So, the amp doesn't seem to be the problem.
Also, opened up both Heresy cabinets and checked all wires and connections.
Everything looks fine.
On Sun Feb 19 2017 at 4:33 AM, pauln said:The Heresy I has a "nominal" impedance of 8 ohms, but it actually is higher (which is good!).
The lowest impedance value is 10.2 ohms at about 135-140Hz, so it is very easy to drive.
You should be looking for a short circuit...
- check the connections to the outputs on the back of the amp to ensure no stray stands of speaker wire are contacting the chassis
- check same at the connections to the speakers
- Unscrew the speaker backs and check inside for loose wires, retighten the terminal strip screws, look around in there
(the inside of the backs have a connection from the crossovers to the back terminals... be carefull when you pull of the backs and check the connections on both sides of the back piece where the connections go through from inside to outside...)
Checked all of the above and everything looks good.
On Mon Feb 20 2017 at 8:41 AM, catman0122 said:I've had brand new speaker wire cause this.
I'm using new Monster Cable and I think all my wire is Monster. Time to upgrade I think!
On Mon Feb 20 2017 at 9:09 AM, wvu80 said:How are your ends terminated? Bare wire, banana plugs, etc? I am suspicious of the speaker wire. I had banana plugs cause this problem once because of the way they "sagged" and eventually touched. I used a small piece of rubber between them to solve that problem.
I suggest you make your changes one at a time.
You might test your amp with one speaker at a time. If you have success on the L with the Left Speaker then move the same speaker to the R, using the same wire. Rinse and repeat for the Right Speaker and wire.
I was using Monster Cable flex pins for the speaker cable ends. Probably not the greatest idea. Just gonna try bare wire and leave it at that.
Good idea on making changes one at a time.
On Mon Feb 20 2017 at 9:40 AM, Deang said:Easy loudspeaker to drive - sounds like an amplifier problem.
On Mon Feb 20 2017 at 2:52 PM, avguytx said:So has this right at 40 year old integrated amp ever been gone through? Is it running on original 40 year old capacitors and not ever been touched? If so, it's running on borrowed time. Nice amplifier but they age the same way any others did from the 70's.
Do you have a "newer" or different amp to try?
I recently had the amp serviced and it was gone through pretty extensively.
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First of all, thanks to everyone for the help!
5 hours ago, Peter P. said:You don't say whether you tried another speaker. I'm assuming the overload protection is for individual speaker outputs and not global.
Also, is it the same channel that goes into protection? If so, try swapping the speakers left for right and see if the problem follows the speaker.
Trying another speaker, and the swap test, will tell you whether it's the Hereseys or your amp.
I should have tried a different set of speakers before I started this thread but I will be doing that tonight or tomorrow.
The overload protection doesn't tell you what channel the problem is with unfortunately, but it works with any of the speaker outputs.
4 hours ago, AaronB123 said:I've actually had really old speaker wire cause that, replaced the speaker wire and I was fine.
The speaker wire is new so it should be fine.
4 hours ago, shiva said:Yes, look closely at the terminal connections on inside of the cabinet and the internal wiring connected to them. Some wiring connections could be loose and creating a short, or as stated old and corroded.
Never thought of the internal connections. I may have to do that.
4 hours ago, rebuy said:Do you have any other speakers to test with?
Yep. Gonna try that. Should have done that first.
4 hours ago, KenazFilan said:I have had this problem in the past with frayed speaker wire: a short in the line kept causing my amp to cut out. When I replaced the wire the problem went away. I would definitely check all connections very carefully as that seems a more likely culprit than the speakers.
I think I'll just go ahead and use different wire when I connect different speakers.
4 hours ago, Toz said:High capacitance in the speaker wire can make some amps oscillate. My old Onkyo integrated will shut down when I use high capacitance wires.
Thanks. I'm gonna try new wire with different speakers.
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I have a very nice Rotel RA-1412 integrated amp that I hooked up my 1979 Heresy's to. The amp has an overload circuit that protects it from various things like high dc offset, speaker wires touching, etc. If any of those things occur a red light comes on and the amp shuts down.
The bottom line is with the Heresy's connected the amp goes into overload every time, sometimes immediately and sometimes within 15-45 minutes. The dc offset is spot on and the speaker connections are fine. If I disconnect the speakers the amp is fine and never overloads even after many hours.
Assuming the Heresy's are 8 ohm what could be the problem with using the Heresy's with this particular amp?
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19 hours ago, Futurist said:
I think a damp paper towel could damage them.
I would start out using a soft brush. That should remove most or all of the loose dust.
For anything the brush doesn't remove, I would use a small, damp sponge and carefully go over the rest of the woofers. You don't want to go over the same area too many times or you'll damage the woofer material.
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On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 0:53 AM, mea2112 said:
I picked up some double-sided mounting tabs. They are supposedly very strong. I don't want to put new glue over old glue residue so I'm going to try the mounting tabs first. I'll report back on the results.
I finally got around to mounting my Heresy badges to the grills using mounting tabs. They work great!
I cut a small amount off the tabs to match them to the size of the badges and they hold very well, as good or better than glue.
These particular tabs are permanent so if you use them keep in mind once the badges and tabs are in place you won't want to try and remove them. If you did I would guess it could damage the grill fabric.
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13 minutes ago, JCFox said:
Here are pictures of what is hooked up to my Klipsch Cornerhorn speakers.
Surprised to see a KLH receiver. It's not a worthy match for the speakers at all and it's not really worth anything as far as selling it.
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On Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Hardway1969 said:
A few questions. What is the best cleaner and type of wrag to get the mold off the woofer? I don't want to do any damage to it or leave a lot of lint behind.
There's a good chance that the substance on the speakers is mildew and not mold. Mold tends to be a green or black color and mildew is usually a lighter color. Mildew is much easier to remove and less harmful if you accidentally ingest it.
Either way, I would wear a mask to be on the safe side.
I had a pair of Jensen speakers that were in a somewhat damp basement (not mine) for many years and with a similar looking light-colored substance on the cabinets. It came right off with just a little soap and water.
I would try a mild cleaner diluted with water first. If it comes right off it's more than likely mildew.
Odd how the speaker on the left had only a small amount of mildew/mold.
It looks like possibly the middle section of the inside part of the grills fits snug against the front of the cabinets and prevented air from getting to the them when the humidity was high?
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10 hours ago, Trippigs said:Those plus some chain or nylon strapping should do the trick. My workshop is new construction so I will have easy access to ceiling joists.
Wouldn't those LaScala's (or any other Klipsch model) sound a whole lot better on the floor? Sure, they take up a fair amount of room on the floor but if they sound much better there why hang them?
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42 minutes ago, usawake said:
Looks like I've found a nice little group of Klipsch family members here. I've been a Klipsch man for almost 35 years and I'm still knocked off my feet with how they sound. They seem to make any amplifier they're hooked up to sound nice. However, what amplifier would someone here recommend to get the best sound from them?
I recently came across this group and it's great. It really is like a family!
The "Solid State" and "2-Channel Audio" forums have some great info on what receivers and amps go well with Klipsch speakers.
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3 hours ago, usawake said:
You're probably right! A wood worker in town said pretty much the same thing and we both came to the same conclusion; namely sell both asap so as to get what you paid for them (I've already gotten some serious inquiries) then buy another pair in perfect condition and just don't make the same mistake again. (i.e. don't put them near any sharp surfaces)
Well, that is an option. Didn't really think about that one!
As far as treating the cabinets, if they came from the factory with the oiled finish (that needs to be determined) then Watco Rejuvenating Oil should be applied periodically (how often would be good to determine also) to keep the cabinets from drying out.
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I see a little scuff but that's it. No need to replace the cabinet!
It looks like the polish you used may have darkened the damaged area a little making it stand out.
If the TV actually did scratch/gouge the veneer it could be replaced but matching the veneer color and grain exactly will probably be impossible.
Not sure if the Heresy III's have oiled cabinets but if they do some Watco Rejuvenating Oil might help to make the damaged area look better.
I wouldn't think filling the damaged area in with wood putty, etc. would be wise either since it and/or any stain you would use probably wouldn't match right.
Best thing might be to just leave it be!
I wish my Heresy's cabinets were that nice but mine are I's not III's.
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Any pictures of the cabinets? What kind of damage do they have?
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Thanks Jim. The glue residue on my grills is centered at the top so clearly they originally had one of the rectangular badges.
On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Tarheel TJ said:What is the preferred glue for attaching it to the speaker cloth? Seems like an easy question, but I figured I'd ask rather than guessing wrong.
I picked up some double-sided mounting tabs. They are supposedly very strong. I don't want to put new glue over old glue residue so I'm going to try the mounting tabs first. I'll report back on the results.
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So, if you have Heresy's with grills that have missing badges and there is glue residue on the grills, is it safe to assume they originally didn't have the laser badges since they would have been affixed using double-sided tape and there wouldn't be any dried glue on the grills?
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Thanks again. The pantagraph is very interesting!
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From what I've been able to tell, the Heresy badges were affixed to the grills with contact cement at the factory. Is that the best way to reaffix a new pair of badges to grills that have missing badges?
I thought of using double-sided tape but the question is will the tape stick to the grill fabric?
Klipsch Forte II Tweeter Question
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Thanks for the comments. I really have no idea what these things are supposed to sound like. I listened to them for a couple of months with dead tweeters and I thought they sounded pretty good. It will definitely be interesting to hear them with working tweeters and new crossovers!