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  1. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    thanks guys for feedback. Ray, folded horn sub had been advised, bill fitzmaurice type. but from what he saw of my room, the french patented BF maker doesn't see any viable/ integrated solution... your bass reflex bins risers are an interesting option. they're just bins, right? no woofers added? a picture of the LS+bin set-up would be great. thanks Chris for the EQ back-up ;-) i know that they're on audiophiles little dirty secrets' list. "The notion that loudspeaker drivers and horns should automatically produce naturally flat response at the listener's eardrums is a anthropomorphic view that "audiophiles" have injected into an otherwise real physical world." this is a good one. could stand as a signature. i did read really good feedback on the Behringer DEQ2496 Ultra-Curve Pro. it's affordable and offer interesting results, especially thru digital playback, (i.e Full Digital Amplifier - an amplified PWM/DAC ) which is what i mainly use at home. it has the very talent of offering a good analog/digital conversion, too - ideal to connect a phono preamp. really, Colleen's set-up and the EQ option really makes me wondering about the KH again. and i have another very interesting contact about a pair. more to follow...
  2. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    hi the story continues with more food for thoughts, as the KH project is still nagging at me ;-) what do you guys think of this KH placement, as featured in the great record's collectors'Dust&Grooves book? it's the living/music room of Colleen "Cosmo" Murphy , DJ and promoter of Classic Album Sundays parties, friend of the late great David Mancuso from The Loft fame and die-hard fan of the KH. https://dustandgrooves.com/colleen/ as this placement is pretty similar to my virtual room arrangment - there would be actually even more space between the speakers - i contacted Colleen thru the grapevine and she vouched for the KH, even in such a "limited" space. another idea is to compensate room issues thru a behringer DQ analog/digital gizmo. EQ is usually regarded as sacrilege by audiopaths - but secretly favored to get the best of systems. keep on hornin'
  3. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    hi again. width is about 14 feet, that would leave about 6 feet between the KH, which seems very little. from what i've read and exchanged here and there, i will probably face similar issues i encountered with the altec 19, i.e the frustation of playing oversized speakers (for my room volume) at a very small fraction of their potential. i've been down that path and the La Scala happily cured these frustrating years. life is too short to let audio issues bothering the very simple pleasure of music. so i'll pass the satisfaction of "owning" KH this time and enjoy my LS. thanks everybody for support and advice.
  4. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    hi Gary this is exactly what i'm thinking. the opportunity woke up that ol' "what if" audio bug the La Scala had succeeded to cure. i must confess that the appeal of owning KH was very strong and almost conquered me, they are beautiful objects of audo desire. i'm afraid a special designed room will never host any of these marvelous speakers as our house is great but lacks this possibility. thanks everybody for your feedback and advice but i made up my mind about it. the La Scala stay ;-) i exchanged messages and pics of my room with the french builder of Fitzpatrick subs and he can' figure any real improvement possible in my room configuration, as any horn loaded would be much too big to place anywhere...
  5. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    hi Hsos and thanks for your feedback on this. the more i read and get feedback , the more it makes me reconsider the whole KH project. fact is, i really enjoy the La Scala the way they are - without a matching sub - and the very idea of owning KHorns as the ultimate/lifetime speaker opportunity, as enticing as it is - is actually more like a fantasy which somehow, goes against my prime intuition. i've already been experiencing the limits and frustration of oversized speakers in a smaller room. my listening at this friend's place, though very exciting and spectacular; just proved me right - and his room is bigger than mine!
  6. La Scala risers

    thanks for the data. yes i saw the table tuba, nice work. too bad i can't use one as a console to put my system on it
  7. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    thanks chris for your comments. as the picture shows, the KH will be placed in the actual corners of the room - where the LS stands right now. there's no alternative to that. i understand your point concerning the elevation of the wole mid/hicgh spectrum and possible outcome with wall/ceiling interactions but there's no issues right now with the LS, they sound abfab with no specific "lack" of bass - xcept on recordings where bass or mastering of bass is missing or bad. thats what i really enjoy about the LS, compared to previous altec 19 - where a certain amount of volume was needed to move that 15" and bass was either (too) loud or boomy or almost missing at lower volume. this issue is probably settled with LS' higher sensitivity or filter engineering. yesterday's experience of KH at my friends' is that they produce way much more bass resonnance than the LS - almost too much for my sake - hence reminded me of the rampant issue of oversized speakers in smaller rooms which never works for me, but sometimes to the sincere joy of the systems' owners. maybe this impression relied mainly on this particularly room, where many absorbers were installed on walls to treat resonance and echo issues and translated in boomy effect... the sub is an alternative i don't feel necessary with the LS. The KH will either work in my room, maybe with some adjustments - or not. i intend to build a wall library on this concrete rear wall for years now - so maybe the KH sound will be a great incentive for some immediate action ;-)
  8. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    well, you're totally entitled to think that from your own experience. then we probably have different perception of music and frequencies ;-) from what i heard yesterday at my friend's, i'm totally aware of the potential of the KH here at home vs. the possible issues due to room structure. what i liked and gives me hope is that even at lower sound level, the KH convey the whole spectrum with full bass weight and dynamics. but i know there will be an upper limit, as there is with any speaker in any given room. browsing the forum i've seen systems and similar room/placement that seem to make their owners very happy. some people enjoy cranking music at almost live volume level and achieve to find tonal balance or acceptable compromise in it, whereas others would run out of the room and cringe. what matters most is the level of pleasure we can reach and the KH seems to have incredible potential.
  9. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    yes look at the picture. the KH would be in these corners, where the LS stand right now. that would leave about 2 meters/6,5 feet between them ;-(
  10. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    feel free to send the info please ;-)
  11. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    i've been wondering about these table subs
  12. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    if there's too much bass and resonance because they're too close and the room not big enough, it will. maybe not worse - but not their best, whereas the LS sound so natural and easy
  13. KHorns and a room, new chapter.

    from what i read here, it needs to match the bass wavelength of the LS, hence quite a piece of furniture Jason, your risers would look and sound fine here too ;-)
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