Ole Dollar
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One other thing, if you want to add the sub - post questions in the SubWoofer forum as many members have done them outdoors.
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Okay, that AVR is very much overkill for 2 channel sound, I like it.
I was wondering if you were going to ask about subwoofers. First a disclaimer - my experience with outdoor sound is with PA systems that I built and used for local bands - I can play anything but a stereo, In the early days I did not use sub's and when added later they made a huge difference with a lot of music. You really have two questions to answer.
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When listening outdoors what is the purpose? (Having friends over and talking or a musical performance)(Ambience or concert
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- What will your neighbors tolerate?
My first thought was of course Yes, it fills in the bottom octave that is usually missing with any small speaker and will make a significant difference. You may have some challenges depending on the area you want covered. For my PA's I set up 4 18" subs with more than enough power - don't under power your speakers as you already know. This approach is not really practical for you and the 18" subs for PA's are not aesthetically pleasing according to my wife - low WAF.
If you do decide on a sub-woofer I can tell you it will make the whole system louder and fuller as some work will be taken from the AW's and redirected by your AVR to the sub. When you set your AVR to "small speakers" for the AW's it will set the low cutoff somewhere around 80 to 100Hz meaning more of the 135 watts is available for work above that.
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When listening outdoors what is the purpose? (Having friends over and talking or a musical performance)(Ambience or concert
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Greetings @dks and welcome to the forum. I'm at work so a short reply for now. From the model I am assuming you are using these outdoors. Unless your current receiver has pre-amp outs the power amps you have listed will have connectivity issues, plus I would have issues running the Pyle and maybe with the Behringer as they are not known for their sound quality. Maybe look at Crown, possibly the XLS series. (I love B&H) I am not recommending this solution but commenting on the amps.
If your receiver is really putting out 90 watts it is rated slightly above the speaker rating of 85 and would seem to be okay. I will admit to burning up tweeters in the 1980's playing CD's with too little power - I use 2 to 6 times the rated speaker power now - yes I am into overkill but have not cooked any speaker in years and never a Klipsch.
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- Purchase a more powerful receiver instead of just a power amp - you may like the new features.
- Since you are playing the AW's loud enough to cook them you should consider a better/bigger speaker capable of the sustained sound levels you want to get.
I'm thinking the second option is where you will end up in the long run if high volume levels are needed, Again welcome to the forum and I am sure others will chime in tonight.
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Oh one more thing. I started using banana plug adapters so I did not have to screw the wires down to the speakers jacks directly. Easier to change out a banana plug on the wire than on the speaker binding posts.
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I had one strip on me and called Klipsch - they sent me two at no charge. They were slightly different but better constructed.
Yes, you can replace the binding posts themselves. Just unscrew the terminal cup and you will see how easy this repair is - go for it.
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While I have not heard the 280's I have heard the RF7 rev 2 and they are my favorite HT speaker. Others will chime in on the 280's but don't think you can go wrong with either and welcome to the forum.
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49 minutes ago, USNRET said:
Lockheed releases a civilian version of the C103J for sale called the L100.
I'm thinking its a civilian version of the C130? I lived on a lot of Air Force bases with my family.
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15 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:
He wants an improvement, not perfection, and he has a $200 budget. There is no way to get any improvement?
For $200 the choir mic technique may be the only choice and I have done that with mic's on stands. Unfortunately the issue still remains of the children not projecting well and with the mic's several feet away the problem will still exist. I would agree that this technique will provide some improvement especially for the children that do speak up.
P.S. This technique can pick up a lot of unwanted noise as well such as paper shuffling and sounds made by the children moving around.
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While not a professional I have done live sound for 30+ years and learned mostly the hard way. Currently I am mixing sound for my church that has children sing and perform plays and skits, mostly around holidays. We have the same issue hearing the children especially the younger ones. The only solution I have found that works is to mic each of them. I do not work for Shure but I do use their wireless SLX mic's for this purpose - cheap mics are feedback producers. Also some eq'ing is needed but since I am using identical mics the parametrics are almost the same for each. *** One must remind the parents to have children dress in clothing that the wireless mic can be attached too, including the transmitter pack.
I very much agree with @DrWho as he is explaining my hard lessons with the laws of physics. Lastly I do "ride the mutes" and for that reason also use mute groups as well - anything to raise GBF.
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@mctweed welcome to the forum. Your best bet is to call tech support - their information is on the Klipsch website.
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Thanks to your advice yesterday I ordered one from Parts Express this morning. Should be here Friday and I will spend some time learning it before the Jubilees get here. I use a Behringer DEQ 2496 to set up PA systems so I get the idea but REW is much more comprehensive - been reading the help file. Hopefully I'll get the hang of it so my questions on the forum might even appear as "intelligent".
I am interested to see how my current system analyses as I was all done by ear except for using a test CD and SPL meter to set the mono amps to have some parity in gain structure. Thanks again!
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I heard back from another member who suggested REW, sorry my question was not clear - and after doing more reading realized it was talked about on this thread earlier. So also realized a lot of three way stuff is going on and I am looking at the Xilica XP-4080 so it can be expanded beyond 2 way, if needed.
I'll read more before I jump into the middle of a conversation sorry about that too. Thanks for the feedback and let me know if REW is not a good choice. -
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I agree, don't do it.
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150 Watts - is that peak or RMS, at 4 or 8 ohms (maybe 16 ohms
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There was a day when you could listen to a good sound system in the school library alas those days are gone.
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My thanks to @minermark as well - 123V in Memphis this morning. I agree in that I would have rather met minermark, but the new toy is fun!
P.S. @dtel did a good job giving them away.
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@jimjimbo - welcome to Memphis and I hope you enjoy your stay here. So much BBQ and so little time. I'm headed out tomorrow as well and will see you there. If you need bail just post.
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As an MC 30 owner that story really hurts.
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I thought I would chime in on this one as I had a SED EL34 with ~200 hours on it fail, after an hour or so into listening session, and took on the look of a light bulb. This happened over the weekend and luckily I was standing next to it when it red plated. This being my first inflight tube failure my wife even commented on me freaking out as I first thought the amp was toast. Apparently I was more upset than she thought I should be.
I monitor bias when I us this amp and it was normal. So I had the amp shutdown in less than 10 seconds but am worried that if I had not seen the failure happening I don't know how much amp damage would have occurred of if a fire would have been the result. The replacement quad of tubes is working without issue.
So my thought is turn it off.
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+1 for the Aventage line, decent stereo and good surround surround. Good feature set and phone / iPad control.
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As a side note my wife called me last week as she listened to the Epic's while I was at work and asked what the flashing red lights next to the word Powergard means. It means 1200 watts in use and you should turn it down a little bit. I was proud she was enjoying our hobby so much.
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I used to power a pair of Chorus II's with a Mac C31V and a pair of bridged MC2002's with great results. Now driving the Chorus II's with Mac tubes and moved a pair of Epic CF-3's into that spot - the Epic's really seem to like the 600 watts per channel.
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I have to ask. What did you have repaired in the speakers? Crossovers by chance?
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To throw in my $0.02, I do some soldering but decided on new Crites crossovers and the Ti diaphragms on my Chorus II's. It was very easy as it was plug and play. Additionally it allowed me to "back out" the changes easily if I did not like the results. As it turned out Bob's work is spot on and I love the sound of these speakers. So I know I have read a lot about testing and troubleshooting here, which is good advice, but since the Crites upgrades are fantastic and the caps in the old crossover ar beyond their life expectancy I like the idea of just replacing the crossovers and diaphragms. I did the same thing to my RF3II's last weekend and the results were fantastic for them as well. Go for it as the Chorus II's are totally worth it!
P.S. I hope the passive repair goes well but think I would be looking for an intact replacement, that's just me though.
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I did the Power Tour, 2003 I think, when Nashville was the starting point. Every stop was a car show and the general public's reactions are great too. I took out the 410's and put in 355's - got 13 miles to the gallon that way. All kinds of cars and nice people as well. Enjoy!