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So other than a larger cabinet and woofer the H3's and the CW have the same upper end. So all that is gained is lower extension?
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I have a pair of H3's that I like but...I'd be interested in opinions comparing these with the Cornwall3's. Aaaaaand go..
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CHASLS2, how do you like it so far? I've been looking at this same model but it ain't cheap right now. It does look fantastic but boy I could use a good sale about now. Hurry up Best Buy!!
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Sub # 3 and # 4 arrived. Not sure I can fit and balance another speaker in here. 7.6.4. So Audessy, then pushing and pulling and sniffing for half-assed placement. Then measuring till my head explodes. I will be here on Dagobah till the force is strong within me.
Carry on.
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Awww... good info Robo. Thanks for the link. I have my work cut out for me. This should be an addendum to REW 101.
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Logical. Running the sub through mini. Made tons of measurements and I've manage to flatten the response from a rise at 20 to +/- 5db to an 80 falloff. However, I'm not familiar with setting delays through mini. I can see my impulse response graph but I'm not sure how to "set" the delays. Currently REW measures the delay at 8.35 ms (9.4 ft) with an acoustic reference. Does the mini 2x4 HD allow manual delay options?
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AVC92, yup. It's just money. Help make America great again by spending your hard earned cash. Be patient and read carefully with the MiniDSP instructions and definitely use the tutorial. I jumped off the cliff and ordered two more subs. Now I'm wondering about whether to connect the front two together, back two together or the left back/front and right back/front? Two outs available on my Denon. Annnnnnd...go!
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Interesting info Robo. Since my last post I installed a few 4" panels behind MLP, up high pointing at angle downward. One to the left and one to the right. These are more ceiling treatments than wall treatments. After bobbing my head up and down and all over the living room I found that the wall/ceiling joint keeping a lot of woofy bass stuck up there. Also one vertical corning got a wedge bass trap. It didn't change the sound image radically but it helped eliminate that swirling eddy in the corner.
I am taking yours and others advice on the MiniDSP. Gunna get the whole kit with mic and all. REW is loaded to the laptop as well as a 130 page tutorial. The measuring itself should be a breeze however it seems like most of the tutorial was dedicated to getting all the settings correct (mic recognition/calibration, sound card, etc.). Yeesh. Into the abyss I go.
Recent update: Two R112's with MiniDSP corrections have proved to be the 8th wonder of the world. If two are great I assume two more would be really bitchin', no? Small room but who cares?
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Interesting info Robo. Since my last post I installed a few 4" panels behind MLP, up high pointing at angle downward. One to the left and one to the right. These are more ceiling treatments than wall treatments. After bobbing my head up and down and all over the living room I found that the wall/ceiling joint keeping a lot of woofy bass stuck up there. Also one vertical corning got a wedge bass trap. It didn't change the sound image radically but it helped eliminate that swirling eddy in the corner.
I am taking yours and others advice on the MiniDSP. Gunna get the whole kit with mic and all. REW is loaded to the laptop as well as a 130 page tutorial. The measuring itself should be a breeze however it seems like most of the tutorial was dedicated to getting all the settings correct (mic recognition/calibration, sound card, etc.). Yeesh. Into the abyss I go.
Lastly I have a question about that 3rd Klip110 sub I have left over. My 12's are placed symmetrically in the front. I have only three option if I wanted to integrate the 110. Option one would be to place it directly on my left of the MLP. This would be asymmetrical...all subs lined up in an "L" fashion firing to the center of the room, more or less. Option two would be to place it 8 to 10 foot to my right along the back, wall firing towards the center, also in an opposite "L" arrangement. Option three would be to pull the couch out from the wall 12 inches and stick it right behind it, but having to firing perpendicular, as in facing right or facing left. This would at least give me a triangular arrangement but it wouldn't be able to face forward towards the other subs. A couch is a pretty big bass trap. Thought?
I may have to do subwoofer crawl but it would be nice to get others feed back so I don't waste a bunch of time.
I assume I'd place the two front 12's on a "Y" splitter to accommodate number three in the Denon?
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Has anyone installed bass traps? Or experienced in acoustic treatments?
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Here's another stupid question. Has anyone stacked their main on top of their sub cabinet to conserve space?
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Thanks for the feedback. I learn something every time I read yawls posts. So here are a few more detail photos of my living room/listening area. It's pretty wonky. A lot of obstacles and a rock fireplace. This is all I have to work with so would using a MiniDSP as Rowan611 suggested (or didn't suggest) be useful in this situation? What I have is an improvement with the new subs, however we all want to squeeze out all we can from our systems. W/O a dedicated theater room would his be throwing money into a minicule improvement due to a weird room?
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Re did it. 9.5 sub off set. Another question. 2 channel play back has distance and level calculations. Obviously we keep those settings for HT but I tend to be seated in the middle of my listening area for 2 ch playback. So if I reset those distance and particularly the levels to match would that in any way affect the Audyssey HT calculations? Sometimes I use a music profile but I do like to run it pure as well. Not sure if pure bypasses Audyssey but it seems to as the levels are +- .5 Db Lt and Rt. vs -3.5/-7.5 Lt and Rt respectively.
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I assume then -12 is the max offset, turning the sub down, and recalculating with Audyssey will prevent sub over drive?
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There is a room behind there. And yes, that's a good point. I can scooch them to the left a little to give a bit more reflex. Even like this it seems pretty monsterous. I can't imagine how other people run 8 subs. I can only assume a big dedicated media room?
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So I installed the R112's just to the outside of the mains. It hooked them up to the LFE on the back of the Denon. I turned the filter on the sub to LFE. I ran Audyssey with the subs set to 50%. Naturally it said "turn them down!" I set them each about 78-79 (25-30%) Db and ran it. It offset the subs to -12 Db. I suppose it's better to have - than running the pre too hot. I've got a lot of room to heat them up.
Listening to tow chanel sounds great. I'll have to put in a movie. I have The Martian and the latest Mad Max as these are cool in 4K.
And so the advice given here has paid off. I DO like the bigger image. Thanks to the above posts. I would still solicit advice. Let it fly.
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Tomorrow. Yes tomorrow... my R112's arrive. Oh yes...they will be mine.
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I can hear your subs all the way down here in Texas. 15Hz should should shake your foundation apart.
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Yeah I thought about the 115, but I found two 112's for a fair price. My room is wider than it is deep and 8 ft. ceilings. Now I need some stereophonic ear plugs because I'm going to play stuff so loud my neighbors will achieve the "brown note". ( South Park reference).
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Yes the H3's are new. Love them.Rp-450c, Rp-240s, rp-150m, rp-140sa atmos, and two g-16 flat panels run by a small legrand amp for extra height.
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My little RPW10 only runs down to 35hz.Its discontinued as well so no doubling up. With the above input I will have...have to...upgrade to a R-112. Or two. Damn you guys.
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This is a lot to take in and will be useful. First I use Audessy for calibration. It does a fair job. Yes, it tends to be light on the sub level but I always readjust. I did indeed place the sub where it looks good however I only have a few geographical possibilities. I sit on one end of the couch and the sub is placed at the opposite end right beside it. I live alone so everything is tuned for my listening position. The H3's in front do a good job with C/O set at 80hz and I get plenty of boom from the RPW10, even in my chest. Watching HBO's The Pacific has a good quantity of loud cannon bang and other low end effects. All that to say it seems like the sub is smooth and powerful. If I did get another one would it matter if it was a different size?
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I have a Denon 5200 in 11.1 with klipsch all around. The sub is a RPW10 positioned a bit from the wall and firing back toward the TV. It seems like I have lots of bass but I keep reading of guys with 2 RPW12 subs or at least multiple large subs. Am I missing something here? Is it really useful to have bigger and more than one sub? I plead ignorance. Lil help?
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I'd really like to hear how this works for you. While I use Audessey to calibrate things it still seems like there is going to be natural dampening for Atmos spkr's as they bounce off drywall ceilings. Logic tells me that they can be turned vertical, hung up (they have a mounting hole for this purpose) on the wall, pointing at your ears and the calibration mike. I wouldn't imagine there is a lot of specific engineering here; they are after all just height spkr's for those of us who can't have wall or ceiling spkr's. Right?
H3's vs CW3
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Already have four RW112's. Looking for pure imaging and hopefully superior mids. I've got the low end covered.