JimMeader

@CWOReilly How do you like your tweeters When I rebuilt my La Scala's I rounded the edges of the motor board around both tweeters and Squakers- not sure if it made that much difference but it do not hurt anything either. did you change your crossovers also

my 15 inch 25 year old Velodyne needs to be refoamed, so I am currently using a 10 inch Polk sub. Surprisingly is does a good job at normal listening levels crossed over at 120 it really fills in for the La Scala's, turn it up and it distorts quicly BTW my La Scala's are raised up to a level that the Squaker is at ear level not the Tweeter in my 17X22 room with 14ft ceilings and a listening position that is 14 feet away from the speakers which are about 11-12 feet apart. It has taken a lot of experimentation and out side of the box ideas but now the room is filled with music even if you are walking around, in addition the sound in other rooms is still very enjoyable. To each their own and always enjoy the Music

@Babadono I noticed you have brick in the lower half of your back wall, it seems that would cause hard surface bounce for a sound room ??????

Thank You all for the discussion. I have 1987 La Scala's ( updated all 3 drivers and crossovers ) in a 17x20 room with 10 ft walls and then another 4 ft in a rounded ceiling on the 20 length . The rounded ceiling has a significant impact on how the room is sounded as well as my MLP is 14 ft from the speakers with a 72 inch TV in between, and 10 ft wall to wall heavy curtains behind the speakers Currently my La Scala's are 8 feet apart and sitting on a 12 inch risers, this location provides a very enjoyable room filling sound with a slightly elevated sound stage. A old Velodyne UDL 15 fills in the base. This arrangement has come after months of trying to get the room effect to meet my needs. I am a firm believer that your room is a major portion of the sound you hear. BTW ,sounded terrible along the long wall due to the rounded ceiling. Also the the wall to wall curtain wall sounds better than the opposite bare wall Once again Thanks for all your comments

Yes, but still asking the question. if no one has done it how do we know it would not be better ???????

I went to a Christmas Concert last night and the 100 piece plus orchestra was great as well as the sound system. I started thinking about the concert hall and its setup. If you think of the last concert you went to and or even concert halls where was the sound coming from. Last night and most times the sound was coming from speakers located above the stage at or near the ceiling pointing down to the audience. A lot of people are trying to replicate LIVE Music with our speakers yet we keep trying to do this with speakers sitting on stands or floor standing speakers. Why has no one used ceiling mounted speakers. To me Ceiling mounted speakers would have the best uninterrupted path to where we are sitting and listening. There would be no furniture in the way, nothing in the way of first reflection point etc. I addition to this thought process what about putting a down firing sub woofer hung from the center of the ceiling. Think about it the sub sound waves are larger than the rest and would have the longest uninterrupted path if coming from the ceiling. Your thoughts?????

First update all drivers, Second - Update to highest level Windows the machine is capable You did not mention how you use a computer, use will determine longevity. This is a "work Station" which can limit some of your future update options. Just remember all current software and hardware "assumes" current computers. I would start saving for a new Costco computer Good luck

I went the veneer rout on my 1987 La Scala. They were a garage find, everything was scratched, dented and abused. But the cabinets we still tight. I went with 1/2 inch MDF on all exterior sides to provide a clean surface for the veneer. This also totally eliminated any cabinet "ringing" which the older La Scala's are know for. It took 3 4x8 sheets of veneer to cover the exterior and dog house areas and to get all the grain to flow right Local Reno cost for veneer was just under $70 a sheet. The dog house is the issue, a real pain in the XXXX If you can live with painted dog house your project will go 50% faster and your alcohol consumption will be less BTW be sure put a bead of glue on all the inside seams of the dog house and get a new sealing for the bottom piece of plywood to make it air tight. Your at a point to consider the following: Consider cutting the top part of your La Scala's off and then adding a new bottom to that portion ( think current LS design ) to create a second box. Why the base bin sound is not as directional as the tweeter and squaker are. By having the top two drivers in their own separate box will help in room placement and sound stage as you can put them at any angle needed. I did no do this but would if I ever did another set This mod is strictly about enhancing room placement flexibility and makes directing the tweeter to listening ear height a lot easier. FYI the 1/2 mdf takes away that Live Sound of the old La Scala's but gives you a much more refined sound more in tune with today current models Good Luck just remember the best day is when you get to fire them up again My first song was Dire Straits You and Your Friend it will definitely put a smile on your face

just got to 330 as of Friday list update so I figure around the first of the new year

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Wow jcmusic less than 1 watt. I want to be there but I have no experience with anything close to that level amp power being effective. My La Scala's were originally designed as PA speakers where 5 watts were typical, my 87's may have had some changes but were still a PA loud speaker at that time. I happen to like the horn sound and its ability to fill a room with sound. I also believe that half of what you hear is speaker placement and the room they are in. Also the La Scala's were designed for vocals ( speeches ) base was not a major need, so use a sub and get over the lack of base. All this tells me a low watt ( 5 watts ) amp can work, but the at the same time Klipsch rates this speaker for use with over 100 watts. The concept of trying a $1-3,000 or more amp and then resell it if I do not like it - is not me. Because of all of the above and the lack of my experience of low watt apps all of your comments are very much appreciated Like I said before the Decware Torii Jr V2 remains my amp of choice

The Rachel was my first choice as a single amp. Now two SE34.6 are out of my budget range, but would be, in my opinion, the best option for me. A single SE341.6 is still 5-6 watts which is just marginally better than the base units for my needs so not really a long term option. The Torii Jr V2 is a solid 20 watts which should be more than enough for my needs, just not a SET amp which was my original goal Sometimes you have to compromise and the Torii Jr V2 seems the best fir for me

So it looks like the SET type amps will drive my speakers for normal listening without an issue, but become less capable beyond that. Given my room volume and 14 ft listening position I think more than 2.5 watts even with mono blocks will be needed for me Decware has the Torii Jr V2 which I am on the LONG waiting list for. At 20 watts per channel it should be enough for my system and room. Since it is a push/pull design I will miss the true SET sound, but as Steve markets, it has "SET transparency" As with all things there comes a point where you have to put a stake in the sand and move forward. Thanks to all that provided their input

tromprof within my system I have DSP capability where I can send everything down to say 100htz to my mains and then send everything from say 120htz below to my sub with its own 400 watt sub This should help the low watt Decware from a load stand point

Schu I am currently on the waiting list for the Decware Torii Jr v2 ( push pull ) at 20 watts. Based on your comments I thinking this should work for my system and room also looking into the Firstwatt J2 ( used ) putting it in the same price range any thoughts