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    Cornwall I or II

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    I have the opportunity to buy a pair of Cornwall.

     

    Both are relatively close to go pick up and price is similar. (Both pairs are in good condition)

     

    My question which is better and why? Somebody told me that they use different horns when they made the II’s.

     

     

    Apologies is this has been discussed before.

    Appreciate any feedback.

     

     

     

     

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    SOLD: 1978 Cornwalls in oiled walnut - $950

    in Garage Sale

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    For Sale: 1978 Cornwalls in oiled walnut - $950
     
    I bought these April 28, 2017 from [mention=26913]avguytx[/mention].  I have thoroughly enjoyed them.  But I recently acquired a pair of La Scalas, and I do not have room for the Cornwalls and the La Scalas.  So, the Cornwalls are for sale.
     
    Serial numbers are 18S238 and 18S239. Before I bought them avguytx converted the crossovers from Type B to Type B-2 using Solen capacitors and Janzen coils.
     
    The badges were missing when I acquired them.  I purchased a pair of the PWK "pie slice" badges from Klipsch and applied them to the upper right corner of each grill.
    I do not want to ship these.  However, I am going to the Pilgrimage in Hope and can deliver them there.
     
    Pictures to follow....
     

    Where are you located?


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    Anyone here still using AudiogoN?

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted

    Sigh.
     
    Things have really changed. I remember when everyone when out there.
     
    Should I really be considering an eBay store for my work?
     
    Dean



    New to audiogon - don't know how big the audience is.

    Ebay's buyer audience is HUGE! Selling rates is 10%...ridiculous.


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    Moving sale. -Heresy III - Cherry

    in Garage Sale

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    Klipsch Heresy III for sale $900. I have more pics I’ll post, only letting me do one at a time. Excuse the mess, bought a place in Alabama and I’m gathering stuff to move.
     
    Bought September 2016. Been boxed up since I got Fortes. Since everyone wants a sub, I’ll throw in a Klipsch SW-112 sub that’s about 3 years old with the price.
     
    I don’t want to pay for shipping, but am willing to drive 200 miles from Evansville Indiana to meet up. Or, I am driving to Gulf Shores, AL on I-65, so I could meet someone on the way. 
     
    More pics on the way, ask if you want something specific.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Good deal. Interested & sent you a PM


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    Belle Klipsch..new to me

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    Treating the Walnut with Watco wood oil made your speakers look like new.


    Bought from original owner..I don't think they were ever treated/oiled. They were so dry I had to do multiple coats & each time all the oil just got soaked up. I'll take good care of them now.

    I was think of getting glass tops with little rubber feet made for them. Anyone have any experience or advice on this? Normal glass? Hardened glass probably better but I can't cut that myself.




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    Belle Klipsch..new to me

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    I had a Luxman L580 integrated amp for several years.  As I said in a previous post, it was the best sounding solid state I ever had in my home (beating NAD, Yahama, Marantz) and was used with Klipschorns, which have the same drivers as the Belle (but the Belle has a shorter mid horn and, naturally, a shorter bass horn).   The Luxman also had the most useful set of tone controls I've seen (a choice of 3 turnover frequencies and slopes for each tone control, plus a "bass boost" switch at 70 and 140 Hz, plus some filters.  It had 80 "true" watts per channel (RMS, both channels operating), more than enough for a Belle.   I now have a Belle center channel (between flanking Khorns), and it sounds beautiful; it is powered by an NAD 150 w.p.c. power amp.
     
    I agree with those who have advocated working on the room, speaker positions, and main listening position first.  They are big variables.  You will hear many claiming that the Belle only goes down smoothly to about 80 or 90 Hz.  A lot of this depends on room position & listener position.  My Belle has a little peak at 60 Hz, and it's  -3 dB point is about 40 Hz, in its current position.  If it looks possible in your room, try putting each Belle in a corner.  That normally would increase the bass, and be equivalent of multiplying your amp power by 4 (i.e., 6 dB) in the bass, compared to placing them out in the room a few feet.  The Belles should be toe'd in so the tweeters are aimed at your ears.  Corner placement, while it  increases the bass, requires some careful handling.  If you do try them in corners, you should act to reduce any midrange or treble reflection from the now nearby side walls.  Put some absorption on the side walls starting from where a stick pressed flat across the front of the midrange and treble horns, parallel to the floor, would touch the side walls and continue the absorption for 2 feet farther out into the room, along the walls.  This is the advice given by Chris A for corner horns.  Even though you don't have corner horns, it is good advice if speakers are in the corners [see Chris A's thread, "Corner horn acoustics" on this forum].  PWK recommended putting all speakers in a corner.   Some would disagree, but putting pads on the wall as Chris recommended may help reduce side wall mid/treble reflections that they object to.  Also, putting a throw rug on the floor in front of each Belle where the tweeter sound would bounce off the floor might be a good idea.  Scattering absorbing pads and diffusing surfaces around the room might make your Belles sound even better, but not necessarily.   Resist dealers who want you to buy many, many pads.  Don't put too much absorption into the room!
     
    Good luck!  You have a pair of the clearest sounding, most articulate speakers, IMO.


    Thank you very much for sharing. Very very informative & informative posts are always appreciated. I'll definitely make use of this information during final placement/tweaking.

    It's going to be a while..but I'll post some pictures when room + placement has been worked out. I'm on work assignment in Louisville...been here almost 6 months already so my listening sessions/audio room work have been brief unfortunately.


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    Belle Klipsch..new to me

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted

    Nice looking - are they to be the same values as the original, or is there a tweak in those?



    Thanks Drew...they are identical to the originals. I didn't want to tear my original crossovers apart so I just bought new crossovers. It's part of the speaker's history so wanted to keep them original even if I don't use them.


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    Belle Klipsch..new to me

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

    Posted

    I used to live in Evansville - not that it would have helped if your gear is in Michigan, but being in Houston, lending you a tube amp to try is a little challenging!



    Yes it will. My plan is to use the SS pre for some time before trying this tube pre amp from Luxman...

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    Belle Klipsch..new to me

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    Great looking example of Belles! I acquired my pair in July I believe.
     
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    I believe mine to be in original condition (no new caps or mods, etc) and an early set. For me, 25 watts/channel (MC225) is plenty of power for any volume I could possibly want. I listened a little with a 40 watt/channel amp (MC240) and with a pair of MC225s strapped for 50 watts/channel. I have not listened with a SS amp yet and when I do it will be an original condition Yamaha M40. I am sure your chosen amp sound great - how do you like it?
     
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    Great looking belle's! The Luxman is an incredible amplifier . I don't even use the tone controls..there's no need to. Lots of power too!


    It would great to test the Luxman side/side to a tube amp. One day[emoji57]!!

    This Luxman model has a "separate mode" which separates the pre & power amp...which allows me to use a tube pre-amp.



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