Kris

It is not bogus. The originator of this thread provided link to similar picture. Maybe the ones you saw in Best Buy are lower-end R-14SAs.

This is one of my biggest complaints about the Klipsch Atmos options. The Atmos options are an after-thought even after two generations. They have poor system design integration with the other speakers in the family. The RP-140SA and RP-500SA are too big for the RP-150M/RP-500M and too big for the RP-160M/600M. They can fit on top of the RP-250F, RP-260F, and RP-280F but they are not an exact fit for any of them. I use RP-140SA on top of RP-280F and another set of RP-140SA on top of RP-250F and they look out-of-place and mismatched on both sets of tower speakers. Sometimes I wish I never started with Klipsch because it is so poor compared with other vendors. If you want to have a 5.2.4 system and use RP-502S bipolar surrounds then you have no means to place Klipsch Atmos modules on top of those surround speakers. If you want to use bookshelf speakers as you back or surround speakers then you have no Atmos module options from Klipsch that fit on top of their RP line bookshelf speakers. I wish Klipsch would solve these problems and offer more solutions to allow for proper system design and aesthetic design. You can see how the RP-500SA look on top of the RP-600M speakers in this YouTube video. At least the four feet can actually make contact with the top-side of the 600M enclosure. "Klipsch RP-500sa Dolby Atmos 7.2.4 Setup!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02BIlr7oZQ

1. After a week of pink noise, brown noise, and music break-in (3-4 hours per day), I re-calibrated using Audyssey. Speakers were placed in same location/orientation as previous direct/0-degree position vs Audyssey microphone. The speakers calibrated to the same 110Hz crossover. Plots attached at end. 2. It is interesting that that the previous generation RS-42II surrounds speakers have the identical frequency specs yet the RS-42 II was a ported speaker. When I was shopping for surrounds, the store had both RP-240S and RS-42II's in their setup room so I was able to compare both at the same time. The RS-42II had an obviously audible lower frequency range. I ended up buying the RP-240S since the RP-240S specs of 62Hz implied an 80Hz crossover should be easily attainable and all my other speakers were RP line. Specs: RP-240S: FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 62-25kHz +/- 3dB SENSITIVITY: 93dB @ 2.83V / 1m POWER HANDLING (CONT/PEAK): 75W/300W CROSSOVER FREQUENCY: 1500Hz HIGH FREQUENCY DRIVER: Dual 1" Titanium LTS Tweeters with Hybrid Tractrix Horns LOW FREQUENCY DRIVER: Dual 4" Cerametallic Cone Woofers ENCLOSURE TYPE: Sealed HEIGHT 11.61” (29.5 cm) WIDTH 10.38” (26.4 cm) DEPTH 6.93” (17.6 cm) WEIGHT 13.2 lb (5.99 kg) RS-42II: Frequency Response: 62Hz-24KHz ± 3dB Sensitivity: 93dB @ 2.83V / 1m Power Handling: 75W RMS / 300W Peak High Frequency Crossover: 1700Hz High Frequency Drivers: Dual 1” (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm compression drivers mated to 90° x 60° square Tractrix® Horns Low Frequency Drivers: Dual 4” (10.2cm) Cerametallic™ cone woofers Enclosure Type: Bass-reflex via dual side-firing ports Height 10” (25.4cm) Width 12.5” (31.7cm) Depth 7.1” (18cm) Weight 11.9lbs (5.4kg) 3. Sound & Vision's measurements of the larger RP-250S showed –6dB point is at 90 Hz, so how the smaller RP-240S could ever reach 62 Hz +/- 3dB is puzzling. "The RP-250S’s three-face averaged response measures +4.46/–3.36 dB from 200 Hz to 10 kHz. The –3-dB point is at 106 Hz, and the –6-dB point is at 90 Hz. Impedance reaches a minimum of 3.98 ohms at 218 Hz and a phase angle of –51.81° at 120 Hz." https://www.soundandvision.com/content/klipsch-reference-premiere-rp-150m-speaker-system-review-test-bench 4. I need to clear some space to do an on wide-wall and corner-wall test/calibration although based on all data so far I highly doubt these speakers are capable of +/-3 dB at 62 Hz in any situation. If Klipsch has any data they can provide to prove the performance of these speakers in a variety of topologies, I would need to see that to believe these are correct frequency specs. 5. Audyssey results for item 1 (after speaker break-in):

Yes I will run proper white noise and pink noise break-in on these speakers and then re-run Audyssey calibrations.

Here are the results of additional Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 calibrations of the RP-240S as surrounds. For all calibrations below, surround left enclosure back is 52.0 inches from wall and surround right enclosure back is 3.5 inches from wall. 1. RP-240S with drivers at +/- 45 degrees to Audyssey microphone (normal wide dispersion usage). Audyssey set crossover to 120 Hz: 2. Both RP-240S rotated so that one set of drivers are 0 degrees to Audyssey microphone (i.e. on axis). Audyssey set crossover to 110 Hz:

At the time of Calibration, one surround was within 3.5-inches of wall and other surround was 3-feet from wall, due to room layout constraints. I will run some Audyssey calibrations on weekend with the two RP-240S' placed on test wall and various distances from wall.

My RP-240S surrounds, whether placed as side-surrounds or back-surrounds, always end up with 150 Hz crossover when calibrated by Audyssey MultEQ or MultEQ XT32. The Klipsch datasheet for the RP-240S states 62-25kHz +/- 3dB, so I would expect these should calibrate to 80 Hz crossover without issue. Anyone have similar issue ? Anyone have actual frequency response test data for these speakers ?

I believe you are correct. Looking at the firmware change logs for all the related Klipsch Play-Fi equipment, it seems that Klipsch is inaccurate and inconsistent with their descriptions. For example, for the Gate it lists "Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds" yet the Gate only has two channel analog input to convert to Play-Fi and itself cannot function as amplifier for speaker. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// POWERGATE - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 1.045 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so Wi-Fi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// GATE - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 1.032 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so WiFi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// RW-1 WIRELESS SPEAKER - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 0.038 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so WiFi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// RSB-14 SOUND BAR + WIRELESS SUBWOOFER - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 4.008 Released: 11/08/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Remembers DIALOG setting (on/off) after standby. (DIALOG setting is reset to OFF after AC power cycle) Remembers Subwoofer level setting after standby. (Subwoofer level is reset to default after AC power cycle.) Remembers SURROUND setting (on/off) after standby. (SURROUND setting is reset to OFF after AC power cycle). Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "RW-1" as a Single Surround. Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "The Three" as a Single Surround and as a Left & Right speaker. Speed up startup time Over all compatibility and stability fixes. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// RSB-8 SOUND BAR + WIRELESS SUBWOOFER - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 2.5.6 Released: 03/04/2019 Region: Global MDU: v2.5.6 Change Log: Fixes lockup issues behavior related to HDMI and Optical inputs Improved DC Power efficiency Improved Play-Fi module stability Over all compatibility and stability fixes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MDU: v2.5.3.5 Change Log: Retains Surround mode and Dialog mode after standby. Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "RW-1" as a Single Surround. Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "The Three" as a Single Surround and as a Left & Right speaker. Over all compatibility and stability fixes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MDU: v2.4.9 Change Log: Changed Retail mode's default value of volume Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "RW-1" as a Left & Right speaker. Over all compatibility and stability fixes.

Does anyone know if using the Klipsch Powergate as "Play-Fi Surround Master" with Klipsch RW-1's as "Play-Fi Surround" is possible ? According to the Klipsch website Powergate firmware release 1.45 it should be possible: "Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds", but when I try to setup through the Klipsch Stream app the message "No Master Detected" is given. "NOTES Version: 1.045 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so Wi-Fi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes" https://www.klipsch.ca/firmware?product=38940 Regards, K

No, it takes three notches for the first volume/LED change and then three more notches for each additional change of volume/LED.

I am worried that the knob is faulty or the electrical contacts are already corroded. I had a car stereo with volume knob that worked perfectly for years then began to fail in the same way.

I just bought a new PowerGate and noticed that when I change the volume using the front panel knob, it requires rotation of three notch positions up/down in order for the volume to change and the LED indicator to change. Yet on the remote control, a single press of volume up or down results in a volume change and the LED indicator to change. Does anyone else observe this behavior?

I just bought/received a new PowerGate and upon unboxing and setup I noticed that there is damage to the plastic enclosure on the top-right corner. It appears to be melted plastic. My guess would be that a hot soldering iron came in contact with the plastic enclosure during final assembly. I really wish Klipsch would get their quality control processes fixed. Picture attached:

The final price to ship back one speaker to Klipsch Canada using same carrier as they used to ship to me using lowest cost ground shipping option was CDN$231, which at this point is still my expense. After repacking it, it appears that the corner with the veneer peeling was due to impact of that corner after boxing during handling at factory, warehouses, or shippers. The result of impact can be traced from box exterior to styrofoam to speaker enclosure. If the packaging was better , a packaging corner impact would not have damaged speaker. I will post pictures later.

I have filed a return request. As of now though, I have to pay return shipping at a cost of approximately CDN$146.00.