Ok first off, I got them from soundcity.com and they were $294ish including all fees. I've tried the CP1 with the old sats before I went full out and setup the 4.1. The CP1 seemed to enhance the gain (louder) and bass was louder and tighter (less boomy). The sound also MIGHT have sounded a little clearer, but it was so hard to tell that it probably was my ears playing tricks on me. Ok now new satellites, Boom! Yes there is noticibly more midrange! I think there is also less excessive sound...if you know what I mean. I'd hardley call it an improvement straight up, I'd say most people would say its an improvement but its very debateable and I bet there'd be a lot of people who prefered the old crossover. The sats don't have improved sound quality, they merely have a slightly different type of sound, so its a matter of taste weither its an upgrade or not, IMO.Theres my short report! -Gxcad c>