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I bought Allan Songer's CT125s and compared them to K-77s and K-77Ms in the pair of Heresy speakers recently purchased by Michael Colter. I found the differences between the three to be subtle, but my high frequency hearing loss is substantial.[1] <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Nevertheless, I kept the CT125s and sold the K-77s and K-77Ms to Bob Crites. Now Michael Colter can offer his opinion as he will undoubtedly swap them into and out of his flock.
[1] Two years (mid 70s) of 4 Speakerlab Skhorns driven by 600 watts of SS power in a DJ business will do that.
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I couldn't agree more.
The more people who are aware of an item's availability the more people have an opportunity to bid what it is worth to them. Does it prevent individuals from getting bargains at the expense of others, sure it does. The only reason to cancel a bid because others might bid higher is because you know your bid is unreasonably low and will lose in the market. The market price is what people will pay, not what it can be stolen for.
Its fine to rejoice in a bargain. Its tiresome to hear complaints every time a bargain disappears because other interested hobbyists value an item more dearly.
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Erland-
I can't tell from the photo posted above, is the back chamber vented into the "ski slope" area like the Klipschorn, or sealed like the Speakerlab?
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It's nice to be reminded of our departed friend lynnm by this thread that he started. His civil, humorous and informed contributions to this great forum are missed.
Erland-
What's the status of your "Khorns;" any new photos? EDIT 02/12/2007 at 07:34 EST: I see some recent photos in your thread dedicated to the build project. I eagerly await more.
BEC-
Am I correct that your supply of NOS GE motor-run caps has been exhausted? If not, what remains? If so, what has taken their place on your preferred list?
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xdetroitx said, . . . not to mention my wife dislikes my outings there. She has not caught the audio bug yet.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Its risky but I assume your wife is the pleasant and attractive woman you were with last year at Pickys BBQ; in any case, congratulations.
If you want reinforcements on your audio assaults on Woodward, give me a shout by email or PM. After 24 years, my wife appreciates music, but shes just as happy listening to it in the car or from her Sony boom box as she is listening to real hi-fi.
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Dont do this immediately, but you might be interested in considering the bass bin modification described on the forum. The link below describes it and links to other pertinent threads.
Re: I have Ported the La Scalas!
I would perform the simple and totally reversible modification on any La Scalas that I ever own.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
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This is my final post on this topic.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
I dont fault anyone for hoping that the items on eBay in which he/she is interested stay under the radar. If I were interested in them, I too would have crossed my fingers and hoped that the bids were few and low. I too would have been disappointed if someone brought it to the attention of others (forum members or not) who might be more interested, i.e. willing to bid more than I. But I wouldnt begrudge anyone the opportunity to bid whatever the item is worth to her/him, despite the fact that I might lose out on a bargain.
Since I wasnt interested in them, I felt it would be beneficial to other forum members who might be interested but unaware of them. Naturally that might produce competition and drive up the price. I see the forum as helping the forum members in particular and the hobby in general. If alerting the forum to items of interest causes any one individual to miss out on a bargain because the item was worth more to someone else, then so be it.
I view the forum as existing for the benefit of all, and not as a way to assist an individual to gain an advantage over other forum members or an eBay seller. Nevertheless, IMHO there is no reason for anyone to forego placing a single last second bid at whatever the item is worth to him/her, just because someone else might also be interested. If each interested person placed a single last second bid that would not, IMHO, constitute a bidding war. Nevertheless, bidding early (other than a last second sniped bid) is pointless and serves only to drive up the final price, much to the sellers delight.
Some people view bid sniping as somehow unsavory; I totally disagree. If ten people are interested in an item, each is free to place a sniped bid at the maximum he/she is willing to pay. The high bidder will prevail. A sniped bid will only register at the lowest increment necessary to exceed the next highest bid. If the item has a reserve and no bid meets the reserve, a sniped bid will not jump to the reserve; the item will remain unsold. Naturally, sellers dislike sniped bids as they watch their auctions end with little or no action only to see flurries of activity in the final seconds. If sellers dislike that scenario, they're free to not use eBay.
While its noble to defer to another who has expressed an interest in an eBay item, its also naïve. If you refrain from bidding $500 because you know another forum memberor anyone elsewho wants it but can only bid $450, its entirely possible that a third party will win the auction with a bid of $475.
The only fair system is for each individual to bid that amount he/she is willing to pay. Any collusive attempt to suppress bidding is no more ethical than shill bidding to artificially drive up the price. The first cheats the sellers and the latter cheats the buyers; theyre both wrong.
If you get a bargain, congratulations. If you lose fair and square to someone who values it more, thats the nature of competition. Ill continue to call the forums attention to auctions that I feel might be of interest to the members. The person who values it the most will win, which is as it should be.
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With the help of Bob Crites they look like this and work like new.
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I agree with HarryO. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
While I don't begrudge anyone getting a bargain, they should be willing to compete with other equally worthy contenders on an auction. As I've stated before, eBay is not a true auction. There is absolutely no reason to bid before the final seconds of the auction, therefore, a sniped bid is the most logical solution. However you bid, do it late and bid once at the value it's worth to you. The high bidder wins. Expecting other interested parties to back off is naive, at best. It does not guarantee that the "favored" forum member will even win. The ONLY fair way to all concerned, including sellers, is for each interested bidder to bid what he/she is willing to pay.
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There's hope for those La Scalas. Check out the thread below, especially toward the end.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/616881/ShowPost.aspx
The networks looked worse than yours.
First start with fresh capacitors (Bob Crites aka BEC) is a source. Bob will tell you that the auto-formers should work fine, despite their appearance.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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I first heard Klipschorns in the early 70s at Almas Hi-Fi (powered by McIntosh) in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Birmingham, MI. I next heard them at about the same time at Hi-Fidelity Workshop (powered by Crown) in Royal Oak, MI. As many have said, I too was amazed by the dynamics and clarity. Nothing else came close to sounding like live music.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
That experience caused me to use Klipschorn clones in a mobile DJ business. Thirty years ago I dragged 4 Speakerlab K-horn copies (I know, no match for the real thing in quality, but they weighed the same) around greater Detroit. With 300 watts/channel of Dynaco SS power (into the 4 ohm load of the two 8 ohm speakers/channel), I deafened adolescents all over the <?xml:namespace prefix = u1 />Detroit
It would have been sacrilegiousand prohibitively expensiveto subject real K-horns to that abuse. I knocked down the plywood shipping crates to permanently attach false corners.
As I would roll the first one off the trailer using a dolly, people would gasp at the size of the flat black wooden refrigerator-sized speaker. When I told them that three more were coming, they'd freak.
The sound from those knock-offs was loud and clear, although I fried the T-35 voice coils regularly. EV gave me an open account. A call on Monday would have the new voice coil and a bill for less than $20 at my door in time for the next weekend.
One time a woman called to again book my services. She asked if the price quoted included the drummer. I had a difficult time convincing her that there had not been a real drummer the last time. She was not used to hearing horn-loaded bass speakers played at high volume.
Michael,
Where's the beef?
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Speakerfritz said, I put in some snip bids on day one of the listing....if a forum member is going to also bid on this stuff shoot me an email and I'll cancel my snip bids.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
This issue has come up before. IMHO there is no reason for one forum member to attempt to defer to any other forum member(s) regarding eBay auctions. Doing so does not prevent a non-forum member from winning the auction. Again IMHO, each interested party should bid (whether real-time or by a sniped bid) what the item is worth to him or her. That is fair to everyone, including the seller.
The above should not be confused with selling items to other forum members. In that case, it is appropriate to grant the first interested party a right of first refusal. The unwritten forum rule is that sellers on the forum state a price and do not pit forum members against one another in a bidding war. That courtesy is irrelevant when the 3rd party world of eBay is involved.
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I doubt these are cast iron; aluminum is more likely. In any case, they have the appearance of the K-400 cast aluminum horn but the dimensions closer to the smaller horns used in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Cornwall (600hz) and Heresy (700hz). <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
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K-22 as used in Heresy.
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An eBay seller is parting out some speakers that might be of interest here. The eBay link below is to Atlas (K-55) drivers. Go to View sellers other items and youll find T-35s, a 12 woofer and a metal midrange horn.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150086986254&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
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The <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Cornwall vault is still collecting dust and waiting to protect pristine, or nearly pristine, Cornwalls while being shipped. If you think you could use it, contact me for more information regarding Forward Air. Ill put you in touch with Gilbert and others for the full story. Im merely the storage custodian.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Please recall that I remain interested in beater Las Scala cabinets and/or Khorns (or Speakerlab) bass bins only.
I was reminded to bump this thread because today I'll deliver a pair of Heresy speakers to Madison Heights, MI so that forum member "profsg" can transport them to West Lafayette, IN so that Michael Colter can then collect him.
Ill load the Heresies, a hand-truck and some furniture pads in a van to meet profsg at the sellers house where hes collecting his new to him Khorns. Profsg is going over and above the usual forum member helping forum member, as he was second in line for the Heresies.
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They're still available. You pay the shipping and their yours. I'll even charge it to my UPS or FedEx account and send you a bill.
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They sound great and will be missed. Tomorrow they make the Klipsch Forum members Pony Express style journey from Birmingham, MI to Indy via Madison Heights, MI and West Lafayette, IN. Only Michael could sweet talk the loser on the Heresies into delivering them to him as part of his own trip to collect his newly purchased Khorns.
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HK 430 from eBay $75;
Toshiba SD-5970 DVD/CD player $59;
1 pair of used Heresy speakers with Crites tweeters and new caps $300;
Listening to the best audio bang for the buck, PRICELESS!
Try to convince me that better sound is available for under $500.
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Michael Colter bought them, but as with all things Colter, there is an interesting story attached. Details will be provided after the transaction has been completed.
Michael, you don't know that the Crites tweeters have an interesting provenance. They were originally owned by the forum's own Allan Songer who sold them to me.
As this is typed Michael is probably in pain watching Peyton Manhandled, I mean Manning.
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Bob-
You're absolutely right about pluralizing proper nouns/names, but does PWK's intentional use of the word "Heresy" to describe the speaker qualify that noun as a proper name having few possibilities of modification? I suppose it technically does, but it still looks and is awkward to make it plural by just adding "S." Clearly, the frequent use of apostrophe S is wrong; it's not a contraction and it's not possessive.
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I know Im beating a dead horse but the plural of Heresy is Heresies. None of the following links supports any other way to designate more than one Heresy. The rule applies whether the Heresy refers to religious dogma or the speaker designed by PWK.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/heresy
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heresy
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/heresy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy
http://www.carm.org/heresy.htm
Im through pontificating. Go back to using apostrophes and other creative ways to designate more than one Heresy.
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It'll never stand up in court . . . or anywhere else.
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Michael you have two emails.
On second thought, after listening to them all evening (first time in months), I'm having seller's remorse.
HK 430 from eBay $75;
Toshiba SD-5970 DVD/CD player $59
Heresies $300
listening to the best audio bang for the buck, PRICELESS!
You'll never convince me that better sound is available for under $500.
Article re Tractrix Horn
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Gil said, . . . It reminds me of ripple tanks we had in high school. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Someone else remembers those. When I asked my 17-year-old son if they used ripple tanks in his high school physics class, you would have thought I was speaking Russian. After I described them he laughed and said no.