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  1. With slightly more than 1,500 miles since purchased new in November, I just realized this 2019 Ford Transit Connect has that auto-shutoff feature in traffic.  It’s mostly driven by our salesperson; have to ask her if she was aware of it.


    On my way to Del Taco for Taco Tuesday, I noticed it start up when I lifted my foot from the brake.  I tried to recreate the situation while inching forward in the drive-thru line, but it did not shut off.  On the way home I duplicated the shut-off and restart.  After moving with traffic for some time, when coming to a full stop at a red light, the engine stopped, the tach dropped to O rpms, until I took my foot off the brake.  Making full stops—as I always do😇—at the 4-way stops in my neighborhood, killed the engine, which restarted when my foot left the brake.


    This is the first such vehicle I’ve driven.  Next you’ll be telling me there’s a way to set and maintain the speed with my foot off the gas.

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  2. 16 hours ago, EmilC said:



    Saves wear and tear on the lane, but I wouldn’t want to be behind that thing, while putting on my rented shoes, if it released the ball prematurely.


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  3. 14 hours ago, syrupchan said:

    i forgot to mention that i have a carver m500t thats known for having a sort of tubey sound do you think this will pair well? if so ill run out and get these babys right now haha


    @moray james, I didn’t infer that syrupchan implied a negative quality when he said “tubey sound.”  Had he said, “tubby sound,” that would have been different.

  4. 5 hours ago, ILI said:

    For that place and moment in time, it was the best speaker to put there on that table.


    Couldn’t agree more.  At a neighbor’s BBQ, his Sonos speaker sounded great.  My mother-in-law’s Bose Wave Radio CD player was perfect for her in her small living room.  At times, my DIY boom box with Radio Shack 40-1197 (FE 103) drivers sounds unbeatable, especially outdoors.


    I’d rather listen to good music on a clock radio than a bad recording of crappy music on a superb system.

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  5. Are you still thinking of purchasing these, or do you own them?  The “repairs” to that woofer are cosmetically poor, but could be fine.  Unless I were using those in a garage, workshop, etc., where appearance is unimportant, I would recone or replace both woofers.  If they sound fine and appearance is unimportant, leave them alone.


    If you can get photos resized to be tolerated by the server, please post more photos, including photos of the insides.



  6. Unless I’m misunderstanding this, I might be compelled to use PPP funds to pay an employee reluctant to return to work under the current COVID-19 protocols.   Since I am unable to hire a replacement in the next few weeks, it may be necessary to continue to pay the reluctant employee to meet the 75% threshold.  If I meet the threshold, SBA pays all three employees, as the PPP loan is treated as a grant.  If I don’t meet the threshold, PPP funds used to pay our employees are an expense of our business, as the PPP loan must be returned or repaid as a low interest loan.

     Seems to me that meeting the 75% threshold is paramount.

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  7. Perhaps I’m doing a poor job of articulating what I see as the difference between “qualifying” a potential buyer and the actual negotiating process.  In my example above, without a general agreement that the seller and buyer were in the same ballpark, there would not have been negations that resulted in a sale.


    Whether widgets or Jubilees, I feel it is appropriate to establish a general agreement regarding the potential budget.  Without that, a buyer with a Heresy budget is wasting everyone’s time negotiating for Jubilees.  A potential buyer who is insulted by a perception that he/she is being asked to make an offer will miss out on what could have been a good opportunity.  Articulating your maximum budget for perfect speakers is NOT a legal offer.  If it demonstrates to the seller that you’re more than a tire kicker, you will get an opportunity to negotiate for real.  It’s likely you will then be able to explain to the seller the ways in which the speakers are less than ideal, therefore, not worth the maximum of your budget.  You and the seller, at least, have an opportunity to reach a mutually acceptable deal.  That opportunity is lost if the potential buyer is  insulted by a reasonable request to qualify the buyer; insulted by the opportunity to demonstrate that she/he is a serious buyer.

  8. 9 hours ago, 314carpenter said:

    I will walk away over >$25. Done so many times.


    I agree.  Early on in my encore career I “fired” a customer due to a difference in negotiating philosophies.  IIRC, he was a buyer for Chrysler, so he was used to negotiating.  I got tired of, “Can you do any better?”  I told him, “I could give it to you, but then who will feed my family?”  After about a week he called back to “accept” the deal he had previously rejected.  I advised him that deal was no longer on the table. He was incredulous.


    This thread is not offered to criticize any individual strategy, but to offer my take on the process.  It was prompted by my recent experience dealing with a customer’s desire for a “ballpark” estimate which allowed both sides to determine whether actual negotiations would be worthwhile.  Neither of us was being asked to make an “offer.”  A real offer was made and accepted only after we met and discussed specifics.  That meeting would not have occurred had we not first successfully addressed a budget.  If our customer had gotten offended by what he would have incorrectly interpreted as being asked to make an offer, it would have ended there.  We both would have lost.


    Some enjoy the gamesmanship of negotiations, others do not.  My negotiating experience is based on many years as a prosecuting attorney negotiating plea deals with counsel for murderers and armed robbers, and decades defending medical malpractice cases.  The personalities and egos of many attorneys often  made negotiations acrimonious, so I learned to make every effort to look past that.  


    I do not take offense if the seller of used speakers explores, no matter how clumsily, my budget.  I understand that by stating something like, “The most I’m willing to spend for speakers that exactly meet my expectations is $1,000,” is NOT being asked to make an offer.  No one is locked in by the process of exploring the budget range.  If that process offends someone, then a deal cannot be negotiated.

  9.    1 hour ago,  DizRotus said: 

     Buyers should offer what they are willing to pay, and sellers should ask what they are willing to accept, PERIOD.


    After reading @oldtimer‘s quote from my original post, I feel it needs amplification.  I’m not suggesting that buyers and sellers can’t understate the offer or inflate the ask as part of the negotiating process.  I am saying that the negotiating dance should be designed to eventually present each party with the other’s best offer, unless it’s clear the parties are too far apart.


    When the ask and the offer are too far apart, it would be foolish for either party to articulate his/her limit.  Only as the offer and ask get close to each other would it be a mistake to not do all possible to see if the ask and offer can meet in the middle.

  10. 10 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said:

    I believe the OP was making his point about used items, not new, so this part is not relevant.


    That’s correct Claude.


    A lot of energy is, IMO, wasted by sellers and buyers attempting to justify their ask or offer.  It doesn’t matter how or why you determine your limit, just that it is your limit.  


    I’m always amused by the vitriol hurled at perceived flippers.  While I can understand a philosophical aversion to parting out serviceable used speakers, the owner has every right to do with his/her property as she/he sees fit.  Furthermore, if I obtain something of value by windfall, I have no obligation to reflect my minimal, or nonexistent, acquisition cost in the asking price.  The market still controls.

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  11. Everything in this post, as well as every other post of mine, is my opinion only.  Others are free to disagree and to express that disagreement in a civil manner.


    The musings below can be applied to the buying and selling of used speakers.  Buyers or sellers are too frequently too self centered in their approaches.  Buyers look at high asking prices as almost criminal, whereas sellers look at “low ball” offers as attempted theft.  Too many are insulted by offers they deem to be out of line.  My advice is, get over yourself.  Buyers should offer what they are willing to pay, and sellers should ask what they are willing to accept, PERIOD.  All the perceived insults and hurt feelings are for children, not adults.


    For example, in my business, it is frequently necessary to quickly determine whether a customer’s budget is even in the ballpark.  Just last week a call came in for a custom made product that is infrequently purchased.  I told the caller that $1,000 was a likely target, fully expecting that to end the conversation. We didn’t offer to sell anything for $1,000, nor did he offer to buy anything for $1,000.  Instead, we both were able to decide it was worth our whiles to continue.  Had we not had that discussion, we, the customer and us, could have wasted our time to learn the customer would not, perhaps could not, pay a reasonable price for the product he desired.  Had not the customer confirmed that $1,000 was within his budget, we would not have scheduled an appointment. 


    As it turned out, the customer purchased an upgraded version of the custom made product that ended up costing just under $2,000.  In our business, under normal pre-COVID-19 conditions, $2,000 is a below average sale; nothing to get excited about.  


    As it pertains to selling used speakers, buyers can ask for all the clear photos they want and tailor their offers accordingly, similarly, sellers can ask whatever they like and preemptively discourage “low ball” offers, but it always comes down to whether the buyer and seller can agree to a price.  Sure, buyers might prefer many clear photos and a stated price, from which they could attempt to negotiate downward.  Similarly, sellers would like to state a high asking price, avoid the task of photos, and not be required to accept less.  The motivation levels of buyers and sellers vary widely.  It is no crime to ask too much or to offer too little, but it is poor etiquette to insult your counterpart merely because he/she was not motivated to meet your photo demands or to commit to a range.


    To avoid hurt feelings and misunderstandings, I see no problem with a buyer asking a seller, “What’s the least you would accept?” That can be done with a question or by making good faith offers until one is accepted or the seller ignores the buyer completely.  Similarly, I have no problem with a seller asking a buyer, “If the item in question were perfect, what’s the most you would pay?”  In neither case is either party committing to a contract.  No one is making a legal offer that could be accepted by the other party, thus creating a contract.  All that is being done is to establish a range within which the buyer and seller may be able to reach a mutually acceptable agreement.  If such a range cannot be established through a civil exchange, then the buyer and seller would both be well advised to look elsewhere to strike a bargain.


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  12. The terminals on older Klipsch Heritage speakers are not binding posts, they are barrier strips.  Using your photo (attached for ready reference), the expedient connections are made to the screws (upper) not the bare threads (lower).  You have gotten some good advice from @Peter P.,  @Dean-g, and others, some of which I will repeat.


    It shouldn’t need repeating, but all of the following is my opinion.  You are free to disagree and reject it all.


    At a minimum, twist stranded wire and “tin” (solder) it before attaching it to any terminal, whether at a speaker or an amp.  Without tinning, a stray strand can cause an unwanted connection, which can be especially problematic at an amp.  


    A tinned lead can—should—be formed into a hook to wrap around the terminal screw, at which point I would tin the hook again to sweat fresh solder into the strands and to repair cracks in the solder created when twisting the tinned lead into a hook.


    The tinned hook should go under the screw with the wire to the left of the terminal screw and the hook going over the top of the screw clockwise.  That way, as the terminal screw is turned clockwise to tighten, the hook is pulled against the terminal screw.  If connected backwards, tightening the screw can push the hook away from the terminal screw, causing a less robust connection.


    If all of the foregoing sounds like a PITA, it is.  I recommend it only if you plan to connect the speaker wires and leave them connected for years.  Alternatively, it is a suitable temporary connection until you get suitable spade connectors recommended by others earlier.  Even though running out to Radio Shack on a Sunday to get proper connectors is no longer possible, most hardware stores or box stores (Lowe’s, Home Depot, Menard’s, etc.) sell them.   When using the proper sized spade connectors, I always tin the lead before inserting it into the connector and crimping it properly with the proper crimping tool.  After crimping it, I still heat the connection to allow solder to flow into the mechanical connection caused by crimping; I know, suspenders and a belt.


    If all the crimping sounds like a PITA, that’s because it is, but taking short cuts will eventually cause an even greater PITA.  You mention not wanting to drill holes.  A Binding post (my least favorite connector) can be inserted into one of the four holes left after removing the barrier strip.  A hole will need to be drilled for the second binding post, as using one of the three remaining holes would put the binding posts too close together.  The unused holes would need to be filled.


    If you envision needing to disconnect and reconnect the speakers frequently and regularly, only then do you need something more complicated than a tinned wire formed into a hook.  Although I despise binding posts and banana plugs, they have their place and are favored by most.  All stranded wires connected to binding posts or banana plugs should be twisted and tinned. NEVER connect bare stranded wire to a connector, speaker, or amp without twisting and tinning.


    In lieu of banana plugs and binding posts, I prefer Neutrik SpeakOn connectors, like those used by essentially 100% of bands to quickly and securely connect, or disconnect, their equipment.  After inserting tinned leads into the proper receptacle of a Neutrik  connector and tightening the set screws, you will have a polarized connection that can be quickly connected blindly using one hand.  When it clicks and locks into place it will stay properly connected until you use one hand to unlock it and disconnect.  You can’t do that with any other connector.  It does require drilling new holes and filling old holes, but if you need to disconnect and reconnect more frequently than every decade, it is worth the trouble and expense.  A final benefit is meeting your responsibility to purchase products from Liechtenstein.


    The large round connector is my preferred speaker terminal.  The amp shown has smaller square connectors, due to not enough space for the round connectors.  The SpeakOn plugs are the same for either connector.  The cables connecting that class-D “Wiener” TPA3118 chip amp to the speakers can be quickly disconnected at the amp and the speakers and just as quickly reconnected.  The cables can be switched side to side or end to end without compromising secure polarized connections.














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  13. 12 hours ago, richieb said:

    — That’s what she said —


    That reminds me of the time we were celebrating New Year’s Eve with two other couples we’d known since college.  Early in the evening the hostess asked her husband to show a VHS tape of some recorded game.  After a few minutes she asked from the kitchen, “Did you put it in yet?”  I reflexively said, “That’s a question no man wants to hear from his wife.”  My wife was mortified.

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