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  1. As far as I can tell all these new II models have the same binding posts as my CWIVs and other Heritage IV models. Pretty cool.
  2. I own CWIV and have never heard Forte IV, but I feel like most people who have heard both usually say the FIV seems to have deeper or more impactful bass? I dunno but I do know CWIV has amazing bass. I was using a pair of subs for a while but not much anymore. CWIV and a decent integrated is all one needs for two-channel music bliss.
  3. What makes that site any more credible than anyone here? It sounds like you just found a guy who told you what you wanted to hear. Plus that dude hasn't even got his hands on a Forte IV or Forte III... And the Forte I may have deeper bass than a Forte IV on a spec sheet from 1985, but testing proves otherwise. The Forte IV has some of the deepest bass of any Klipsch speaker ever made. Deeper than the Cornwall even.
  4. Fixing that had to make a dramatic difference!
  5. That actually a really good binaural recording! At least the Chesky Records version is, I thought there was only oner version to be honest. Great recording! One of the few records where sub bass isn't summed to mono. So a true stereo bass setup gives advantages with it.
  6. I turned those cheap Klispch subs off and fell in love with my Cornwall IVs all over again....lol Even as well integrated as they are, they're still too slow and can't keep up with that quick and light paper woofer on the CWIVs. Everything is noticeably snappier. livelier and tighter with the subs turned off. For anything other than modern pop recordings, I don't think I'll use them much anymore. Still on the lookout for a small-ish footprint fast sub that can keep up with the CWIVs. REL T9/x pair is still at the top of my list after much research. Though the aforementioned SVS and Rythmik subs are also on my radar.
  7. I've always found binaural recordings to sound just fine on a standard speaker setup.
  8. This thread turned out to be a dud! Is no one into stereo bass setups around here?
  9. Nah you're good. I missed the last sentence of his post that you were actually responding to. That's my bad
  10. He was definitely agreeing with you..I don't understand why you're being snarky with him... EDIT: Ah nevermind, I see you were more responding to his last sentence in that post.
  11. First off, I'm not talking about just having two subs. I'm talking about having two subs that are NOT summed to mono. I achieve this with my setup by using the stereo pre-outs on the back of my audiolab 6000a Play. These are not strictly sub-woofer pre-outs, just regular pre-outs. This amp offers no bass management either, so that is managed on the back of each sub. Now, let's talk recordings that actually take advantage of such a setup. Which isn't as easy as you may think. As with most modern recordings, all sub bass is summed to mono in the studio. But not all recordings. The Chesky Records binaural recordings are such recordings that are not summed to mono. Macey Grays "Stripped" record is a great record for such a setup. On most songs on this record, there is a standup bass located stage right. And it's very obvious on a stereo bass setup, as the right side of the room is pressurized. Amber Rubarths "Sessions from the 9th Ward" is another Chesky binaural recording which is good for stereo bass. One of my absolute favorite records for stereo bass is: There's many great tracks on this record that take advantage of stereo bass. Track #3 being especially good, with an upright bass on each side of room playing a different passage. Also the first track features an "octobass" a 16ft tall bass violin that requires two people to play. It's positioned dead center in the room though, so no cool stereo bass effects, but cool nonetheless. So what do you guys got? Any good recordings for stereo bass?
  12. You're saying the lower octaves of bass aren't important to you? I couldn't imagine living with less bass than a pair of Cornwall IVs with no sub. I enjoyed CW IVs for months with no subs, but now that I've added even a cheap pair of big box store subs, I'd have a hard time going back. You don't realize what you're missing until you hear it yourself in your system. Truly an "ignorance is bliss" scenario haha. You owe it to yourself to get a couple subs on your La Scalas. Even a pair of the aforementioned Klipsch SPL 12" subs would add MUCH to your enjoyment.
  13. I gotcha. A 15" woofer. Is it the exact same driver the CW uses? From what I hear from other people, it doesn't reach as low or have the impact of a Cornwall. While being much more massive than a Cornwall. It just seems like a flawed design, in the case of the La Scala specifically.
  14. Why is the LaScala one of the weakest bass outputting speakers that Klipsch makes? I mean damn the thing has a 15" sub in a folded horn cabinet (which is massive, btw) and it outputs less bass than a Cornwall with the same sub in a direct radiating config. I never understood it.
  15. When I saw Tool in January 2020, just before covid really took off in the US, I thought it was too damn loud and the treble was hot as hell. Everyone always talked about how incredible Tool sounded live but I was like "nah it sounds better on my headphone rigs" and now that I have a competent 2-channel setup there's no comparison. I wish I had taken a db reading at the concert. But yeah it felt like I had cotton in my ears the rest of the night. I saw Post Malone at the same venue a month later and I thought he sounded better and my ears didn't feel like they were stuffed afterwards. And I'm a HUGE Tool fan....
  16. This is exactly my sentiments. I will not be high pass filtering my mains. My amp doesn't even allow such foolery. Any bass management will be managed on the subs themselves. Yes definitely a stereo pair. Music is what's most important. So, a sealed design is preferable. I'm totally happy with the sound I have now. I just want something prettier and nicer, more on the same level as my Cornwall IVs. Damn doesn't anyone make wood veneer subs anymore?
  17. It's all good brother! But my cheap Klispch subs I think is rated down to maybe 34hz and even it adds enough low-end grunt and impact to be worth having hooked up! I can't disagree with anything you said. And I have no good reason for it, basically it comes down to me sorta being a subwoofer hipster lmao. Which is pretty dumb. If money and space were no object I'd have a JL Fathom beside each Cornwall. Hell I basically have a passive Fathom sitting in my room unused and not hooked up. I had 4 JL Audio 13.5" w6 subs in a Chevy Tahoe 15 years ago. I still have 3 of these subs sitting in my house unused. The reason I'm stuck on REL is I find those drivers intoxicating to look at and SPACE! I can fit one beside each CWIV in the exact spot my current subs sit. Anything bigger and I'd have to put my mains closer together and my mains are perfectly placed. OR I could put bigger subs on the insides of my speakers. Out of curiosity, which subs would you guys get at $1500 each? Maybe I'll reconsider....I don't have space for folded or tapped horns though...so let's stick with direct radiating subs...
  18. I've got my sights set on a pair of REL T9/x subs. I don't know why but I've always just kinda turned my nose up at SVS. I just feel like everyone buys a damn SVS lol.
  19. I feel exactly the same about Cornwalls. I tell folks all the time "don't neglect the wall part of the Cornwall name" haha. Mine are 2" from the front wall at their closest point.
  20. Wow really? What does Klipsch rate the FR at? Seems to me a sub is a must with LS.
  21. Agreed! Absolutely do not high pass filter your LS! Just let the new sub fill in where the LS falls off. Probably 40-50hz.
  22. So I used these speakers for about 8 months and got used to them and told myself I didn't even need a sub. Mostly because I felt the subs I already had weren't up to the task. I have 2 R-12SW Klipsch subs I used for home theater for years. But I finally integrated them into my 2-channel setup and I integrated them in a way so that they're only picking up where the Cornwalls fall off. I have them at their lowest crossover setting (40hz) and I'm still running my speakers full range, as you should, IMO. The detailed, fast and textured bass of the Cornwalls still shines through but now they just reach a little lower and are more impactful. On most songs the subs aren't even doing anything. And on the songs that do call upon them they aren't bringing any attention to themselves. They're perfectly integrated, IMO. This revelation in sound has me looking at upgrading my subs. I've been looking at a pair of REL T9/x subs. I'd run them on their high-level inputs right off the speaker taps on the CWIVs. Aside from that I'm still impressed how well I was able to integrate these $200 subs into my system. Anyway, I just wanted to share that experience. Not really looking for suggestions or advice or anything lol.
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