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(No mashed corners on this pair...your eyes failed you.) Well I'm back for a little more abuse because I need to clarify some stuff. First off, I'm a businessman... In the stereo game to make money. I currently have three pair of Heresy's that I think are junk but because I know that someone will buy them for $300- $500 a pair I have invested money into them with the idea of MAKING MONEY. Its called a business. If it were up to me I'd only stock HIGH END equipment and Klipsch would'nt make the cut by a LONG SHOT! I deal in what the market makes available to me and have to lower my standards to match others. If it were up to the posters on this issue, all stereo would be free of charge to Americans or at least available at the Salvation Army at command for a 100th of what it cost new. I make no bones about my business. If you are willing to buy it, I'm willing to sell it and I always guarantee that what you get is what I advertise...the last time I looked I pretty stellar feedback on Ebay! Second....the use of the word cardboard is over analyzed here. The Heresy II's are made of MASONITE!!! ( If you or Klipsch wish to call it MFD and make yourselves feel good...go ahead.) A product I think is as junky as cardboard. Matter of fact, masonite (MFD) is made by glueing together ground up bits of wood and PAPER, not unlike cardboard although a little denser and thus stronger. Klipsch uses this product because of it's MONETARY savings NOT because it is a better product in any way shape of form. Klipsch speakers made from this product go quite well with knock down furniture from IKEA but are in no way near the same quality of the VINTAGE Klipsch speakers made from plywood. They might SOUND fine but they are made with GARBAGE materials. Since when did Americans start thinking that Masonite, MFD, HDF or plastic was suitable replacement for wood, glass and steel?....ANSWER: When all the idiot consumers started accepting it as such AND PAID MORE FOR IT!!! Third. I have determined that these are 1972 Klipsch speakers due to the serial numbers which I BELIEVE are indicitive of a 1972 model. I also think the components installed are of 1972 vintage. These are a USED pair of speakers. I have no idea if they have been reveneered sometime in their lives but if they have been, the job looks as professional as anything Klipsch could have done to begin with. I am selling the speakers based on CONDITION, Vintage, QUALITY of the product, and the fact that ALL ELEMENTS look to be original and work. Fourth. Getting a pair of Heresy II's on ebay for $545...too bad you spent your money on modern crap! (But at least you didnt pay $650 or a little over $900 as I SAW a couple of people do on previous Ebay auctions.) Part your speakers out....see if you get anywhere near what you paid. I dont think there is a high demand for plastic horns, plastic drivers, crap cabinets or modern Klipsch woofers. Fifth and finally. A pair of speakers I have on Ebay and Audiogon now made by CAIN & CAIN are predominantly REAL WOOD. Not plywood...real wood. The Sonus Fabers I sold earlier this year are REAL WOOD and the Early USHERS I sold a couple of years ago are also REAL WOOD. Granted there arent many speakers made of it but those that are, are exquisite. They are tuned perfectly to the drivers and make ANYTHING Klipsch EVER made sound quite lacking in dimensionality and reality. Plywood is a FINE choice for speakers but MFD or HFD is garbage and it is sad to see a once great company like KLIPSCH stoop to the level of this junk. ANYONE defending the use of garbage materials in the manufacture of so called QUALITY speakers is delusional and anyone stating that they have never seen or or heard of real wood speakers cant be taken seriously as someone comming from a knowledgeable basis. Mark Voigt Jr Providence RI PS...I dont hide behind a ficticious name.

Heresy II's are garbage in my opinion. The cabs are made of Masonite which is like a really hard cardboard. Its a junk product. I certainly hope Klipsch did better with the Series IIIs. I simply cant understand how Americans have come to view plastic, fiberboard, masonite or cardboard as "quality" materials when it comes to products. You are entitled to your opinion, but your facts are a little off the mark. Where do they use masonite on the garbage Heresy II's I just bought? I've looked all over this junk product and can't find it, Did I get cheated? Wow, cardboard cabinets direct from Klipsch, must be pretty light to ship, how about that quality?I should E-mail Klipsch and find out how much more money they need to get, I guess I didn't pay enough. Thanks for the input. I have three pair of Klipsch Heresy II's and the cabinets are made of masonite. Masonit or MFD is garbage when comparred to plywood or int ehcase of very exquisite spekers, real wood. Heresy II's with their plastic horns and and poor quality materials are junk in my opinion but as a seller I'm more than happy to sell them to people who believe that they are quality.

Thank you. Yes, those horns were quite unique and fully loaded with the good stuff, especially those Fiberglass/plywood midrange horns. The guy paid another $1500 to have them shipped. That should tell you something abouot their perceived value in Japan.

Heresy II's are garbage in my opinion. The cabs are made of Masonite which is like a really hard cardboard. Its a junk product. I certainly hope Klipsch did better with the Series IIIs. I simply cant understand how Americans have come to view plastic, fiberboard, masonite or cardboard as "quality" materials when it comes to products.

I dont know if this is proper to notify Klipsch users that I have a very old pair of Heresy's available on Ebay. If not then I guess this post will be deleted. If you are interested you can see them at: 1972 Klipsch Heresy pair Thanks, Mark Jr

These recent postings of Klipsch speakers are stuff that I have been hoarding. Generally I'll sell Klispch as soon as I get them but these were too nice to just let go. After thinking long and hard about it, I've decided that the space and money is better than having the speakers. I cant use them all at once anyway. A few weeks ago I sold a pair of BEAUTIFUL Belles and a pair of Fortes. A few weeks before that a beautiful pair of Heresys went too. When these are gone, thats all I've got. I have about 50 different Scott integrated tube amps and a bunch of Eico and Heathkit geat that I'll be unloading too. Some other brands as well: Stromburg, Audio Research, McIntosh, Moscode, etc.... I cant just keep looking at the stuff. It needs to be put to good use. Mark

Hello, I'm the seller of those 1961 Klipschorns on Ebay. I'm glad they have received a lot of attention here. As to the cabinet covers, I spoke with Trey Cannon at Klipsch a few years back about them. He said that there was no way to tell if those were built by Klipsch BUT at that time Paul Klipsch (sadly missed) was doing a lot of custom work. The craftsmanship certainly suggests a workshop as fine as Klipsch built them. These are NOT homemade. To further the story on the pair, these were bought from the family of the man who originally bought them in 1961. The old doctor died in 1965 and the speakers, the Marantz model 9 pair and the Marantz model 7 sat unused until I bought them and NO I did not steal the stereo equipment. I gave nearly $10K for the system even though I knew the midrange drivers were bad. I've had the speakers 2 years and have used them off and on. The ORIGINAL university drivers for the midrange speakers were sent to Bill Miller of Miller Sound in PA. He could not repair them because they were in a sealed enclosure. I asked around and found that the best replacement according to Klipsch forum guys. The tweeters are original and the woofers are original too. Remember that Paul was doing custom work at this time and he would have probably installed any component the customer requested (within reason). The reason I'm asking premium is because of condition, originality and the VERY nice components. This is truly a unique pair. While newer horns sell for less, the older horns are much rarer and the midrange sounds much less harsh. Someone said they didnt like the sound - personal taste. I've found that most people who hated Klipsch speakers found this pair to be very pleasing. Solid State amplification has NEVER been used on this pair. Low powered tube amps only. Thanks for all the interest and for all the kind words about the pair and my reputation as an Ebay seller. I will soon be listing tons of vintage HH Scott tube items for all you tube lovers. Mark Voigt

Thank you. I've seen tons of em but never knew they were refered to as ceramics. Are these what people refer to as mud magnets too? Mark

WOW! That is an interesting website! That went on my favorites. I'll be reading that one for a long time, over and over. THANKS! Mark

Darn! What do ceramics look like? I saw someone posting about a ceramic driver. Any such thing? Thanks, Mark

Was wondering if this is a ceramic style driver? From an old klipschorn. Thanks. Mark

Thanks Everyone. Q-Man is selling his to me. Thanks for the offers! Mark

The K 55 with the curved edges. That is what is in those old Heresys. I just found out that they are 1967s instaed of 70s. They have the "F" in the serial number. Maybe these are Atlas? I always though EV. So much to learn about three little speakers! Mark

Hello Chris, I remember you comming down to look at those old Cornwalls. I have another pair! Finished in a beautiful teak wood and with the offset midrange and tweeter horns. They are from 71. They sound as great as the look. I've come across a beautiful pair of 67 Heresys with the EV SP12 speaker in them that are really nice and I'm trying to resurect an old pair of Klipschorns. Always a project going on here! Mark