thanks for the advice, i also bought on ubid. i am running it on an onkyo tx 840 (also known as an R1) which i know nothing about. recently was offered a Kenwood km 105 and kc 105 set up for almost nothing anyone know about them. I m also looking at the HK pa 2000 on ubid, any ideas? as far as the Brooklyn apt dweller, as i live in queens and work in brooklyn i know all too well about limted space. the speakers are a bit powerful for my place but it was a great deal and i plan too use these for many years so eventually i will not have that worry. I also have a post in problems, my kg1 woofer is not working( i assume its the internal tinsel) anyone know a speaker repair place in area thats good, esp queens