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  1. Has anyone played with amps that have a built in derived center such as a Carver AV-64?
  2. @Skelt. That’s dedication. Impressive.
  3. I’m curious about how people actually go about comparing newly modified crossovers with their old set ups. I’d assume that best comparison would be an A-B test. That only seems likely to happen if someone goes through the trouble to ensure that they have two different crossovers to compare. Given that the modifications can be plenty expensive, I’d definitely want to be reasonably assured the juice was worth the squeeze. I’m about to put some Dave A MAHL tweeters in my Chorus Is. I will A-B one speaker against the other, however imperfectly. I’m also recapping with Audyn parts Dave recommended. First big mods for me. Should be interesting.
  4. @4JaxJags your work on the Chorus I bass ports is, IMO, seminal. It’s well documented and clearly explained. While it’s in my nature to tinker, I plan to duplicate your work as a starting point. It’s so well thought out that it’s probably going to be the end point, too. Thanks for adding your link to this thread.
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  6. Interesting that Star Trek TNG was mentioned in relationship to its audio. I noticed that my TV had optical out and that my NAD D3020 (hooked up to a set of unmodified Quartets had TOSLINK in. I started binge watching TNG and on of the first things I noticed was the engine noise as the Enterprise passed by. Preposterous, really, since there’s no sound in space. But it does sound cool, which is really the point...
  7. I have an NAD D3020. It takes optical and analog inputs, as well as Bluetooth. I like it a lot. It’s small enough to take with me to audition speakers. So far, it’s driven: KG .5, 2.0, & 4.0 Heresy I and La Scala Quartet, Forté II, & Chorus I It’s worked well with each of them. The more sensitive (efficient) the speaker, generally the better the amp performs. I would start your search another way. One constraint is size. Another is sound pressure level. How loud do you need your system to get? A school dance is 101 - 106 dB. Some larger Klipsch can generate this much sound with one watt of signal. D3020 and a set of Quartets could be a good start...
  8. In considering an answer for your Amp question, how loud are you looking to go? I’m a big fan of vintage NAD equipment, much of which is period correct for your Chorus. I’m sorting out which of my NAD amps will best suit my needs for both 5.1 and two channel. The two channel setup is for Chorus I. Most of the time, that Chorus pair is hooked up to a little NAD D 3020 v2. It’s a current model integrated amp that’s small, versatile regarding inputs, and pushes about 30 watts per channel. Modest power perhaps, but the wife demands that I turn it down long before I get to 11 on the volume dial. For your Chorus IIs, Klipsch specs: 1 watt = 101 dB power handling = 100 W One of the rewards of owning high sensitivity (i.e.efficient) speakers is that you don’t have to buy high power amps to generate a sufficient sound pressure level. That’s only one factor in amp selection, but it should be relevant to most listeners—especially if the listener must coexist with someone who’s more likely to say “turn it down” than “crank it up.”
  9. Re: a lot of speakers... I think I finally regained my composure when I recently passed on a set of nicely priced Quartets that had a cabinet modification that I didn’t like. The set of Choruses was a deal I couldn’t pass on, though. I had been looking for Chorus IIs but few have been listed lately and none were close. I was a bit leery of Chorus Is because they didn’t stay in production all that long and because the Chorus II gets so much love. But the price for the original Choruses was agreeable, they weren’t too far away, and, upon reading more, they seemed worth an extended audition at home. So far, the juice has been well worth the squeeze. No doubt that my LMAHL tweeter experiment will make a fine addition to a great speaker. I think the recap and freshening up gaskets will get it back into specs. But mods like the tweeter and the bass tubes will change the character of the speaker. My expectation here is that change = improvement, but the test will be making that assessment in my listening room with my gear. There’s also the matter of cabinet work that belongs in another section of the forums. The factory black paint has done it’s job protecting the veneer underneath, but it’s flaked away in a few places. So that will get a refresh, too.
  10. Sold quickly. Had two plastic blank-off plugs in the side of one speaker. Seller didn’t know the history. He sold them in two or three days.
  11. Dave, thanks for the note about the frequency generator. I have suddenly found myself with a lot of speakers and I’d think that $50 or so would be a pretty good investment. I’m thinking about doing a consolidated thread for the Chorus I that I build up, since it’s not as well documented as the Chorus II. Plenty of good stuff on the Chorus I, but it’s scattered across sites.
  12. Thanks, Dave. All of your suggestions sound great. I don’t have a frequency sweep generator, so I may skip that step for now. (I will look into it, though.). All the rest of the steps are in play, including the recap. FWIW, I really appreciate the specificity with regards to the parts. I didn’t mention my plans for the bass. It seems that a seven inch long tube that’s four inches in outside diameter will fit in each bass port and extend the bass response. There are a couple of threads that talk about this mod that are easily found with an Internet search. Since it’s practically free and easily reversible, I think it’s worth a try.
  13. Dave et al, I’ve picked up a set of Chorus Is that I’ve decided to make my project speakers. Dave’s tweeters are part of the plan, as is recapping the crossovers. I’m looking for specific recommendations for both elements of the plan. I’m also very interested in options for the midrange because the squawker is a legacy/heritage part. The Chorus II got a physically different Tractrix midrange horn that may or may not be worth pursuing In an updated Chorus I. The mid-range horn makes most of the sound I can hear, so it seems that the squawker would be of primary interest. Surprisingly, few have had much to say, other than to replace gaskets and perhaps swap out the diaphragms. Looking forward to hearing views on this from Dave A and others “in the know” about the fine speakers.
  14. I had been wondering about the two larger amps in the series. There’s a D 7050 and the D 3045 that you have, Apparently, they’re quite different, with The D 3045 having much better connectivity than the D 7050. The D 3020 is nice, but I would like to try out the 3045.
  15. Just checked. It’s gone.
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