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  1. These are the tops to KP-450s. The best match is probably the factory bottoms, which feature dual K45s. KP-456 bottoms are similar.
  2. I’ve been in contact with the seller and am working out shipping with him. This looks to be an interesting project.
  3. Ports look great. Where did you get the tubing and the flared ends?
  4. I own the passive radiators, so including them should be as economical as bass ports for me. It’s just a question of what works best for placement flexibility and for performance. As I’m thinking about doing an industrial style speaker, I’m wondering weather it makes sense to do industrial style crossovers like the KP-250 or KP-301. Those industrials have higher power handling properties than the consumer equivalents have. I’m assuming that my Quartet based industrial cross over would be different from the 301 or the 301 v2, since all the drivers are different. For example, the Quartet tractrix horn uses a K61K squawker driver and a 301 uses either a KP-66E (v2) or a K-57K (original). The woofers are obviously different based on size. Even the tweeters don’t match up. Quartet has K76K, 301 is either K792-KP (v3) or K-79K (v1). Is it worth exploring heavy duty crossovers or should I just go with a stock crossover with factory spec caps?
  5. Thanks for all of this, but especially for the dialogue on ports vs passive radiators. I just assumed if the choice was for an industrial style cabinet, then it was also a choice for ports rather than passive radiators.
  6. Moray... thanks for the bracing photos. I’m assuming that the thicker plywood used in the industrial line would add to cabinet shell stiffness, which, in turn, would make bracing something between less necessary and more effective. Any thoughts about swapping out the woofer and about ports vs. passive radiators in an industrial style cabinet? In addition to the comments he makes in the next post in this thread, Moray made these remarks in a similar thread on upgrading Quartets. I’m including them here to make the discussion easier to follow. “I dropped a set of KLF20 woofers into my Quartet added weight to the passive and added some damping to the cabinet in the form of high density fiberglass on the struts only and put them on four post stands which placed the centre of the mid horn at my seated ear level around 40" up off the floor. Best Bass I have achieved from any Klipsch I have owned and modified. See brace work [photos].”
  7. So I’ll have to look for a write up on the Super Heresy. The one on that e-Bay ad looks great. That said, I already own the guts of the Quartets. I’d like to do something fun with them. I am beginning to see how the search for something a little better could lead to addiction.
  8. Not sure whether this best belongs here or in the Industrial Section... My recent purchase of KP-301s has opened a new chapter of my Klipsch audyssey (pun intentional) and got me thinking about some Quartet parts I picked up. Here are some preliminary thoughts about building a ruggedized but musical cabinet for such a beast. I assume there is no Industrial Klipsch that uses Quartet tweeters, squawkers, and woofers I know that KP-250s have some commonality with Heresy I know that KP-201s have some commonality with Heresy II I assume passive radiators are a no go for this style of speaker I assume that 4 inch diameter front facing ports similar to the KP-301 and 250 are both desirable and, potentially, tunable for a bass extension I assume that I could opt in to a different woofer as Moray James did with his (nicely braced) Quartets I assume that I should be using the thicker plywood common to industrial model cabinets and that the additional stiffness in the cabinet shell would reduce the need for cross bracing I assume I should be trying to achieve the same interior volume as the standard quartet I assume that I would need beefed up crossovers should I want to go to 11. These should be optimized to protect the tweeter from over current Even though I’ve lots of assumptions, I’m sure I missed a few things. I’d love to get the wisdom of the crowd here. What are your thoughts about a project like this?
  9. Quartets don’t come up very often in DC. When they do come up, they don’t stay posted for long. (Obviously, someone could keep something up for an extended period hoping for an above market price. I have seen some sellers asking $800-900 further up the East Coast that sat for months, but nothing like that in DC.). $500 in DC is a good buy if they are also in good condition. Considering yours are Walnut, and look pretty in the photos, I’d say you did very well. In the right room, Quartets are probably all you need for great sound. They can be made different in ways many find better suited to their tastes. I’ve heard three different versions lately: - stock - Crites tweeter diaphragms and crossovers - Cabinet braced, Crites tweeter diaphragms and Crossovers, Ti squawker diaphragms, and upgraded woofers All sound great to me. An A-B test wasn’t an option, so I’ll avoid praising any one over another until I can do that. In the meantime, I’m going to make as many opportunities as I can to listen to whichever ones come available.
  10. I didn’t get the chance to pull out the drivers this weekend, but I did play the speakers some. I have an NAD D3020 digital amp...about 30 watts, small, pretty accurate, and takes a bunch of different inputs. It’s nice to have something so portable. It showed me that KP-301s put out an amazing amount of sound per watt. I didn’t play anything with heavy bass, so I can’t comment on whether something was missing down low. Everything sounded clear and detailed, though. Makes me want to get them into a more permanent location so I can listen to them some more.
  11. These sold quickly. I was #4 in line 12 hours after they were posted.
  12. I did hook them up and I’m very happy. I suspect that, like many things Klipsch, that there were running changes with the CP-301 v.2. I’m speculating that my -2 was early production (hence the minor differences with the v.1) but I may have to go to the Klipsch historian to sort that kind of running change out. Perhaps more importantly, I should verify the components I actually have. That’s not an immediate priority, but if I get some unencumbered time this weekend...
  13. I was expecting a tractrix squawker in the KP-301-II speaker. The lens isn’t the same as in my Quartet, which should be the same tractrix squawker as in a Chorus II. The tweeter and squawker arrangement in both of my CP-301s looks exactly like what’s in my Chorus I. See the photos. Quartet is on top. Also shoutouts to Charlie, Dave A, and Jon for your remarks about electrical loading and sound differences.
  14. Photo Time. The tweeter and squawker lenses appear identical on both speakers. Only the woofers look different. And that’s mostly the printed logo. I’ll have to start pulling parts to get to the bottom of this. Sorry the photos are rotated. Hope nobody gets vertigo.
  15. Will do on the photos. I think I remember different squawker lens shapes. If that’s the case, a simple component swap seems unlikely. I suspect I’d need a new motor board, some new components, and a new or revised crossover.
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