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Outrider 6

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  1. Chorus Is seem to respond well to four inch long, four inch outside diameter bass port extensions. Pull the woofers to get the tubes in the cabinet.
  2. To answer Dave… The online payment systems are subject to the same reporting requirements, but seem to be implementing them at different speeds. Cash F2F is great, but it limits a sales market to those willing to drive. I have used USPS money orders as a customer which are a minor inconvenience, and a mild to moderate risk. The inconvenience part is that they top out at $1K, so you may need multiples. They’re about $3 each. You buy them with cash at a Post Office clerk’s window when it’s open. It’s not a wire transfer, so you need to mail the check. You probably want some delivery insurance on the check, too. As a seller, you’ll also need ID to cash it and probably to pick it up. The seller may want to wait for it to clear, too. Shipping is a separate process we don’t need to cover here. Once all that’s done there’s the possibility you (customer) get less than you’re expecting. That includes getting nothing. One advantage to using the mail is that you have some protection, but it’s slow. Mail fraud is a pretty big deal, as it’s a federal crime. Buying via money order isn’t for the faint of heart, but it’s worked out OK for me as a buyer.
  3. @Patrick D... No doubt the classic NAD 3020 would still impress. Great design that has stood the test of time. This thread is looking at the class D amp NAD has in current production the D3020. I have a mix of new and old NAD electronics, some quite powerful. Even the most modestly powered NAD will alert the WASA (wife audio safety alert) system in my house when I’m driving Heritage or industrial speakers. If my ears can take it, I can get enough dBs to overpower WASA and force that into manual control, too. Welcome to the forums.
  4. That was quite the set-up. I have cobbled together some ersatz KP-450s with Dave A’s help. (He had some 450 HF sections for sale.). These serve as mains in the basement, where WAF has the least impact on my decision-making. I’ve been told that the 456 is so much the better than the 450 (which I really enjoy) due to its improved HF section. So I’m on the hunt for 456s now… or maybe just bigger horns for the 904 bass bins. GLWS!
  5. These look to be in great shape. GLWS. As I am hopelessly curious…. What did you use for your front channel speakers? Assuming you are upgrading, what will replace the units you’re selling?
  6. Part of the deposit. And yes, very frustrating in many ways. He eventually returned about half of the deposit.
  7. I had bad luck with the seller trying to buy these speakers last year. Made a deal, set up shipment, and then he backed out. Claimed that he blew a woofer out while testing them. I’m pretty sure they were “sold” to chassell and to me at the same time. Hopefully chassell got all of his money back. I didn’t. Stay away.
  8. Is there more to the story? What did you do for the HF crossover? Did you feed the new horn from the HF output of the 904? I’m about to try to repeat your experiment with DE75s, a ZXPC K510 clone, and a 904 bass bin.
  9. Those Belles are really nice and Laurie is super easy to deal with.
  10. Yes. I think she still has a new pair of Oiled Oak Belles.
  11. See the last post in this thread: We’ve established that industrials tend to send more energy to the tweeters and squawkers than home use speakers do. The last post has some specific recommendations that should be helpful in tuning to your needs.
  12. Welcome. You’ve found the right place to look for info. You KP-250s are one of several variations of Industrial Heresy speakers. The thread HP-1 to KP201 ( ) covers some of the other versions of your speaker, but also has specific info on the KP-250. It’s a 14 year old thread, but it spans a lot of time. The defining features of the 250 are its heavy duty woofer, the ported enclosure, and tuning for PA use. Some of these properties are less charming in home use…so people tinker.
  13. jjptkd - 2500C and the original KP-250 don’t use the same components. The set M.Att is looking at in Baltimore are 2500Cs. The 2500C spec sheet says: K53K mids and K79K tweets. K42K woofer as Dave noted above. The Heresy II spec sheet says: K53K mids and K79K tweets. K24K woofer. (Heresy II used here based on information that an earlier post that implied a Heresy II is the same as a KP-2500.) The KP-201 is close to a Heresy II. The KP-250 and the KP-2500C are both ported and have heavy duty woofers. Crossovers seem to vary across the range of speakers from classic networks mounted on wood to more recent versions with plastic structures. I’ll update with 250 original specs when I find them. Unfortunately, I can’t use mine for a reference. I got them cheap off CL, in part because they had JBL woofers. While I’m pretty sure I saw a reference to factory titanium diagrams in the 2500C, the source wasn’t Klipsch literature. My guess now is “not.” If you’re interested in 2500 squawker mods, look here:
  14. M.Att…I have a pair of rat fur 2500s, too. Spend some time listening before you consider altering them. H3 components are either a side grade or a step down. If available, they probably won’t come cheap. Both your tweeter and squawker have titanium diaphragms from the factory and the woofer will be some variation of a K42 that ClaudeJ recommends for Super Heresies. if you decide to go for mods, consider the crossovers and an Lpad. I’ve read elsewhere in the forums that the various incarnations of the KP-250 respond well to reducing the gain to the tweeters at the transformer tap helps. Some have done the same to the squawker. That will cost you some sensitivity, but could result in more balanced sound. I plan to keep all the circuit protection features intact in case I feel the need to go to 11.
  15. For the OP… your M32 has BluOS, which is much like Roon. Have you tried using the Bluesound setup without Roon?
  16. This old thread is a gem for new KP 201 owners or any others trying to sort out what their KP 201 is.
  17. Now that the 4 ohm Kappalite 15C is out of production and the inventory all run out…. What other good choices are there for a Belle/LaScala/Cornwall?
  18. And if you built cabinets to Tangent 400 plans, you could use better wood and design in further bracing to get an even better speaker. My T400s sound a little better than my H2s. The bass sounds a little stronger and the tweeter and squawker are naturally on axis with my ears when sitting.
  19. Nice to see some love for NAD here. These don’t come up often with the original packing materials, manuals, and remote. One nice thing about the 1700 is the tuner’s frequency selection knob. Though it is digital, it works like old school analog, and there’s some heft to the knob. It’s a great design for the period and it’s plenty adaptable to the present. I’ve used anything from a $25 Prozor BT DAC to a Bluesound node to stream via the 1700. If you prefer the past, it does have a good phono section. The 1700 pairs well with a range of NAD amps. The 2100, 2400, 2600, and 2700 were all sold along side the 1700.
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