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Outrider 6

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  1. Re: a lot of speakers... I think I finally regained my composure when I recently passed on a set of nicely priced Quartets that had a cabinet modification that I didn’t like. The set of Choruses was a deal I couldn’t pass on, though. I had been looking for Chorus IIs but few have been listed lately and none were close. I was a bit leery of Chorus Is because they didn’t stay in production all that long and because the Chorus II gets so much love. But the price for the original Choruses was agreeable, they weren’t too far away, and, upon reading more, they seemed worth an extended audition at home. So far, the juice has been well worth the squeeze. No doubt that my LMAHL tweeter experiment will make a fine addition to a great speaker. I think the recap and freshening up gaskets will get it back into specs. But mods like the tweeter and the bass tubes will change the character of the speaker. My expectation here is that change = improvement, but the test will be making that assessment in my listening room with my gear. There’s also the matter of cabinet work that belongs in another section of the forums. The factory black paint has done it’s job protecting the veneer underneath, but it’s flaked away in a few places. So that will get a refresh, too.
  2. Sold quickly. Had two plastic blank-off plugs in the side of one speaker. Seller didn’t know the history. He sold them in two or three days.
  3. Dave, thanks for the note about the frequency generator. I have suddenly found myself with a lot of speakers and I’d think that $50 or so would be a pretty good investment. I’m thinking about doing a consolidated thread for the Chorus I that I build up, since it’s not as well documented as the Chorus II. Plenty of good stuff on the Chorus I, but it’s scattered across sites.
  4. Thanks, Dave. All of your suggestions sound great. I don’t have a frequency sweep generator, so I may skip that step for now. (I will look into it, though.). All the rest of the steps are in play, including the recap. FWIW, I really appreciate the specificity with regards to the parts. I didn’t mention my plans for the bass. It seems that a seven inch long tube that’s four inches in outside diameter will fit in each bass port and extend the bass response. There are a couple of threads that talk about this mod that are easily found with an Internet search. Since it’s practically free and easily reversible, I think it’s worth a try.
  5. Dave et al, I’ve picked up a set of Chorus Is that I’ve decided to make my project speakers. Dave’s tweeters are part of the plan, as is recapping the crossovers. I’m looking for specific recommendations for both elements of the plan. I’m also very interested in options for the midrange because the squawker is a legacy/heritage part. The Chorus II got a physically different Tractrix midrange horn that may or may not be worth pursuing In an updated Chorus I. The mid-range horn makes most of the sound I can hear, so it seems that the squawker would be of primary interest. Surprisingly, few have had much to say, other than to replace gaskets and perhaps swap out the diaphragms. Looking forward to hearing views on this from Dave A and others “in the know” about the fine speakers.
  6. I had been wondering about the two larger amps in the series. There’s a D 7050 and the D 3045 that you have, Apparently, they’re quite different, with The D 3045 having much better connectivity than the D 7050. The D 3020 is nice, but I would like to try out the 3045.
  7. Amazing... Only way that happens now is for estate or other “don’t know what they have/desperation” sales...
  8. That’s a fair answer. In addition to sonic differences, LS have a distinctive presence in a room due to their depth. So even with the sound off, they send a message. That massive folded base horn’s wedge is just timeless and screams “you’re about to get a concert.” Pretty cool.
  9. So how did we devolve to togas and thongs? Given the number of suggestions I’ve received about alternatives, I was surprised that nobody mentioned Chorus I or II. Though I ended up on the large end of the scale with LS—and am quite happy with them—would the Chorus have been a suitable alternative to the LS or Forté?
  10. Look great, sound great, and were fun to build. Based on a proven design. What’s not to like? Any lessons learned? Things to emphasize? Thoughts on parts? Notes on assembly, such as mounting OT soldering? Thoughts on value / return on investment? Appreciate anything you can offer the community.
  11. @grasshopper I did a search of the forums and saw a thread on moving LS. If I have it right, you started the thread. It was key to my planning.
  12. The AAs on the 1981 LS are original. I’m assuming one way forward is to modify those AAs to this standard and to replace the AL board on the ’86 LS with the modified AA in the photo.
  13. If I were to go the DeanG route, I’d either need a third unit from him or perhaps could try this: Not sure exactly what they are beyond “upgraded.”
  14. Thanks, Dean. I’m tempted, but should wait until the end of the month payday before biting. I would also need a third, since that’s the setup that I have.
  15. Next thought is capacitors on the LS. Will have to research them. I know it’s a heavily debated topic and there’s lots of information in the forums about the network boards. The two 1981 LS have AA network boards. The 1986 LS has an AL network board. I also got a modified AA network board with the set. It’s been recapped. I suspect there’s some advantage in matching network boards and speaker components.
  16. @jimjimbo This is great. As it happens I have two AA equipped LS. So a nice place to start!
  17. Can you post a components list and sourcing? I have a couple of underemployed engineering students at my disposal.
  18. Given my recent spending spree (mid ‘80s LS and 1990 Forté IIs), I’m down to pocket lint. I’m a tinkerer by nature and old capacitors (at a minimum) are certainly going to be a siren call for me. These look beautiful in an industrial sense. Logical, neatly arranged, and with fresh, clean components. Thanks for the recommendation.
  19. For the OP... Hope this can help you regarding your La Scalas. I’m two days removed from buying my La Scalas. I live in the DC area where prices are high. The two pairs of La Scalas currently won the DC Craigslist are about $4K for mid ’80s vintage speakers. One of the two sets is actually in Northeast PA. He’s advertising everywhere trying to get top dollar. The local set is the no grille faced version, painted black, and is pretty worn. I do not think either seller will see that kind of money. Why? I paid about $2K for a three-pack of La Scalas and an extra high-end crossover. All of them are mid ’80s vintage. One of them looks identical to your speakers. The other two are the rustic, all plywood versions stained a dull brown. As to price, some long-time forum members politely suggested that I had overpaid, and others thought I got a pretty good deal. My takeaway is that the right price isn’t always obvious. As a buyer, I’m concerned about opportunity and availability, as well as my own finances when determining what I’ll pay. As a seller, your calculus is different. You want best price, but you probably don’t want to spend a few months selling them. Another thought is to hold on to them, at least for a while. Yes, they are big. They also sound big. You might warm up to them. I did.
  20. It is quite attractive in person, which made it hard to walk away—especially when the seller accepted a $1000 offer. In DC, notorious for its high cost of living, I suspect the price is about as good as you’ll get from someone who knows what he has. I’ll have to look up what kind of oil Klipsch used on these. After so long in storage, they could use a fresh coat.
  21. The Optical input is excellent on the D3020. I was pleasantly surprised that my TV had optical out, so all of a sudden my TV doesn’t sound too bad. Though the power is modest, it will drive heritage Klipsch way past the wife’s tolerance for volume. It’s not a perfect, nor a permanent, solution, but it’s nothing that needs immediate attention.
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