Jon B

Thank you Gents, for the outstanding advice. When these speakers are ready, I have no doubt I will be in sonic nirvana. I'm about to realize my Cornwall dream (and a bit more) after all these years of wishing and hoping I would one day own a pair. I can't wait, Thanks again, Jon

I honestly should have swapped the tweeters first, but I was in a hurry and only looked at the physical evidence - one speaker was clearly abused and in my experience tweeters are one of the first drivers to fail when a speaker is abused. I did not determine that there was a different crossover involved until AFTER I bought the titanium domes and replaced them on each tweeter. I'm happy with the new domes, and I have decided to shelf the 3.0 b and 3.6 a for a new pair of Crites Chorus I crossovers. This pair of 301's days of public sound reinforcement are behind it. Thank you, Jon

I have been a fan of VINTAGE Cerwin Vega speakers for a long time. The 80's D9's could get the job done nicely but they are big, heavy, and not nearly as attractive as a Cornwall. And the D9 could lay down a thunderous, yet tight bass, so I am very accustomed to that. I absolutely hate the synthesized booming noise passed off as bass today that usually accompanies someone chanting a nasty nursery rhyme to a beat! Those guys know nothing about "accurate" sound reproduction, or quality speakers. I am reconditioning a pair of CV AT-15's now. They are quite similar to the D9's but their mid-range is weaker. But NONE of these Vega's hold a candle to the 301's. I can clearly hear the potential in them even before I finish the crossover replacement/upgrade. Thanks, Jon

Dag, just one! I think it would be easier to come up with a plan for total world peace than come up with JUST ONE favorite Pink Floyd song! So let me try it this way: Personal favorite song: If I must, it would be Wish You Were Here due to the raw emotion of the song. Best Album: Dark Side Of The Moon a masterpiece from start to finish, and I think the whole planet agrees based on the sales records. Best Album Mastering: Momentary Lapse of Reason. I have 4 versions of DSOTM and be it digital or vinyl, none can compare to this album. That album makes even average speakers sound very good, and superb speakers sound out of this world! If you are selling speakers, you NEED this album! That's my story and I'm sticking to it, Jon

I completely agree. My 301's are not 100% yet and they still sound better than the rest. The JBL 4312a speakers can compete now, but definitely not after those new crossovers go in. They would be in their own zip code in my home! And I admit, I can get away with higher volume in the garage - not so much in the house. Hehe These speakers do have a Cornwall flavor and I have loved those speakers since I first heard them in 83-84 (not positive which year). They tend to make everything sound better and I do love that! Jon

I agree. The Chorus crossover would be great! Because I have no plans to light up the neighborhood any time soon. I could easily do that with the other speakers in my arsenal if I wanted - I have four CV AT-12's, two CV AT-15's, two JBL 4312a's, two Infinity IIa's, two Bose 601's two Bose 301's and two DCM TF 700's. With an assortment of vintage Yamaha, Kenwood, and Technics separates and integrated amps. As well as several large and small vintage Yamaha, Sansui and Kenwood receivers. So I could get loud if I wanted - it's over rated. Jon

Thanks Randy. I think I am going to buy a pair of Crites crossovers for the KP-301. Then I will pull the 3.0 B and 3.6 A, sell them, install the Crites crossovers and enjoy my garage even more than I do right now! Sound like a good plan? Jon

I found the details I posted last night on the woofers. One is a K-48 K and the other is a K-48 EP. Thanks, Jon

Thanks, Mine match the KP 301. The mids match and the logo position is the same - top center. Not to mention the plugs in the rear match and indicate 301 only, no II. I am looking for advice on how to proceed - replace both crossovers or find another 3.6 since it seems to work well, or fix the 3.0 and find another. My 3.0 B is not working well with either tweeter, but the 3.6 a works just fine with any of my drivers. The mids are brighter on the 3.6, but on the 3.0 they are definitely toned down a bit. Thanks, Jon

My speakers have been opened multiple times. All the external features say KP-301, only the crossover differences say 301 and 301 II. But I did find two different woofers in them. The 3.0 B equipped speaker had a K-48K woofer, and the 3.6 A had a K-48 MS woofer (as I recall). I'm at work right now and my notes are on my workbench so I am not 100% on the woofer numbers. All the other drivers matched. Jon

My oh my those are some lovely cases!! Mine are covered with what I like to call "Moving Blanket Fur" from the factory to protect the cases from the bumps and bruises from moving around from place to place. Since I will be using mine in the garage and they will be laying on their sides on the top shelf, I am going to leave the "fur" on them for now. But it sure is nice to know they can be sheared, painted, and turn out looking that good! If I ever opt to build them into my garage cabinets I am going to first refinish them using your method!! Jon

This is a picture of a 3.6 A Crossover I took inside my speaker last night. Much to my surprise I learned that my "new to me" KP-301's have a cross over from EACH in the series a 3.0 B and a 3.6 A Jon

HI Gents, Both Speakers are labeled on the back as KP-301. There is no indication I have version II speakers from the outside. Since I had one speaker malfunctioning that also had a repaired woofer I assumed I had a tweeter with a burnt voice coil, so I ordered replacement titanium domes and replaced BOTH. No change. Tonight I removed ALL the drivers and took a look at the crossovers. The 100% speaker had a KP-3.6A crossover installed, and the speaker with the nearly silent tweeter had a KP-3.0B installed. The fully working speaker had the following parts: KP-3.6M Crossover with soldered driver wires - but some of the interconnect white wire with the red and black stripes used in this speaker that was all over the 3.0B. I think this has a "donor" crossover. K-79K Tweeter K-57K Mid K-48EP Woofer (is this a 301, or 301II part?) The partially working speaker had the following parts: KP-3.0B Crossover K-79K Tweeter K-57K Mid K-48K Woofer. By the way, I did bridge the HF and LF connections on both speakers when testing them. One crossover had separate inputs, the other appeared to not need the bridge. So where do I go from here? Should I try to find another 3.6 crossover, buy a new pair of crossovers from Crites, or do something else? Thank you, Jon

Thanks for the reply. I got tied down by another project and did not get to this over the weekend. I'll work on it tonight and provide details. Jon

While serving in the USAF and in Germany in the mid 80's, I was a part-time speaker rep for Cerwin Vega, Bose, Infinity, and Klipsch, as well as DBX effects. It was at that time I fell deeply in love with Cornwall's, but on an enlisted man's pay could never afford them. Now that I'm older, and in a better financial position, I can afford some of the "better things in life." So I am actively working to scratch that itch that dates back to 1983 when I heard the Cornwall for the first time. This past week I bought a pair of KP-301's and traded a pair of refurbished Cerwin Vega AT-12's (my garage speakers) for a rough pair of AT-15's at a local pawn shop. I plan replace the surrounds on the AT-15 woofers, work a little on the cabinets, then liquidate them to support my Klipsch endeavors. Anyway, I knew the AT's needed work, but the 301's were sold as fully working for $500 - which I was happy to pay for them! When I got them home and connected to my Yamaha C-60/M/60 I could immediately hear issues with the speakers. Since I have a relationship with this pawn shop (I repair computers, game consoles and other gear for them on the side) I did not look them over closely in the store. One speaker has the dust cap missing on the woofer and it looks like the cone had started to separate from the coil, and someone had repaired it without replacing the cap. It seems to work fine, the coil is still aligned properly so I am not concerned. But I did notice that the tweeter in this speaker was barely audible and the mid seemed to be a little loud. Naturally I "assumed" the entire speaker had been abused, so I ordered a pair of titanium domes for the tweeters, reported the issues to the pawn shop and they gave me back $100 on the purchase (fine by me) and I waited for the domes to arrive. I installed both domes last night and was shocked to hear there was no change in the tweeter with the low gain. So I pulled the mids to verify their wiring and get a better look at the crossover. I could immediately see there was a different Klipsch crossover installed in each speaker. The good news was, both are Klipsch crossovers because I could easily see the logo, but I could not tell the exact models from that angle. This weekend I plan to pull the woofers and solidly identify each crossover. My question would be, how should I proceed? The drivers seem to be in good working order. One crossover supports the separate high and low frequency inputs on the back of the speaker, and the other is a full range connection. The speakers actually sound good, but are unbalanced. Should I buy a pair of Crites 301 crossovers, install them, and just enjoy my new garage speakers, or find a match for the lone functional crossover. BTW, I now have two stock tweeter domes and soon a spare crossover (or two) that I will be happy to barter to help others. Thanks in advance, and it is great to be a new member here! HiFi was my first serious hobby going back to the 70's as teen and my first Pioneer SX-650 receiver with Advent 2 way speakers! Jon