analogman

All the graphics are in sunken relief It is a genuine Klipsch badge from a pair of 1984 Heresys I rebuilt for my Son It too was a pair with one missing I made new grilles with new grille cloth and just went badge-less That's how I wound up with this single

The repros in the link (like most of the repros, especially for JBL) look kind of cheesy compared to originals The plastic repros go beyond cheesy but I guess they're better than nothing You gotta do what you gotta do nowadays : - (

Got it if you still need it

I have a PRISTINE ALL BRASS genuine AR-2ax logo - the ALL brass type (not the shit ones with the steel backing that always separates) that I would love see go to a new home I mean it's flawless, paint and metal, but unfortunately I only have ONE $40 if you know anyone who can use it NOT my photo, I took it off the web (I don't own a camera), but this is the style and as I said, the all brass execution: That's firm - any less and I'll just keep it in my collection ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SINGLE copper KLIPSCH badge, the smooth copper early to mid 80's type (not that funky horizontal pattern they used for a while, just smooth copper with sunken relief and black paint) Just the name KLIPSCH and the "PWK" pie Just received a PM from a member - don't now if he was trying to be a funny guy or what, but to answer his and anyone else's question(s) regarding condition, the KLIPSCH badge is pristine as well - NO bends or scratches - looks as new - ergo my asking price I don't care if it sells or not - I'm just purging lot of small things right now as I plan to move soon and see no more (vintage) Klipsch in my future Better it go to finishing a project rather than living in a box or eventually lost to the ages (I ain't getting any younger! ; - ) But as mentioned below - not interested in giving it away, now that they are unobtanium from Klipsch I'll take $25 for this one - These are going for INSANE money on the auction toilet Firm as well - any less and I'll just hang onto it Cash only, no paypal and you pay the postage I just do not and will never use preypal - full stop Thanks Craig

Difficult to make a meaningful recommendation either way not knowing specifically what one had in mind for it It is an excellent product when used appropriately

Is there ANYTHING you don't claim to know EVERYTHING about OR Have something negative to say about, or to correct? ANYTHING? But hey, I've got a question for you since you know everything about everything Audio: Why have not ONE SINGLE PRODUCT from Moore, Franklin and or any of the "Associates" (MFA) been a commercial or a critical success, beyond those units sold to (or given away on permanent loan) to family and friends? That, or to obscure publications both in print and on-line that maybe 5000 people have ever heard of. Why is M.F.A. no more? And Bruce? And Scott? And the "Associates"? Why is that? I'm sure you can clear it all up for me Thanks Analogman

Thank you That was the ticket Analogman

How can I dig up old threads and posts from 10 years ago? It used to be you could easily view a list of every post you had made, now you can only "see" a very abbreviated page of relatively current posts Am I just too stupid and am missing it? Thank you

You'd never know it

Click on or scroll down to: AUDIO CABLES-THE ULTIMATE TEST OF INTEGRITY http://www.high-endaudio.com/magaz.html I find myself agreeing with this guy's efforts the majority of the time He has produced a ton of words, very entertaining

Some of the more easily found vintage 6BQ5 amps out there can be sublime as well as reasonably priced AMAZINGLY good fidelity as well as excellent bass Reliable and easy to work on/restore/tweek (if tweeking's you bag) Stromberg-Carlson's ASR-333 and the PHONO stage equipped version, the ASR-433 come to mind as two extremely nice standouts in the 6BQ5 catagory And these are just integrateds with tone controls (oh no!) Make the hair stand up on the back of your neck matched with anything efficient, but still able to drive a more difficult load in the 80s like vintage JBLs to very nice room filling levels Have to spend a LOT of money to come close It's difficult to beat a nice U.S.A. made 6BQ5 amp with anything else in it's power class as far as sound quality and fun goes Plenty of tubes to choose from if that's your thing

I do not know what the word is you intended to use, but as for your item #1 that is NOT the definition of circuit topology. This statement is not only not true but inane: "When it comes to sound quality, the tube type is one of the least important contributors to the final sound." (I am assuming we are talking output devices here)

Please elaborate. Analogman

Too late, tag, you're still it and I would like to have a frame of reference to your background and experience given the recent interaction in this thread. My direct experience is limited since I helped a friend set up a pair about ten years ago or so; however, here is a thread with a few posts by Eric and I if you care to read it and determine if anything fits your needs. https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/154408-vintage-klipsch-lascalas-are-amazing/ I'll pass on the invitation but thanks for your interest Was just curious to hear what Bose's intended goals were from an insider's view Was surprised that anyone directly related to the company would be willing to state such things in a public forum such as this one Pretty tight lipped bunch at Bose If you never really had any direct experience with the company (other than assisting an end user with one of their products) then that's fine Disregard the question Analogman

I really wasn't interested in your biography beyond your association with Bose, but thanks for sharing! I asked the question as you had written: A while back Eric and I tried to describe direct experience about the intended goals, the limitations, and consumer market niche (which tends to not be the audio enthusiast) and we were figuratively beat over the head and various attempts were made to flush us down the toilet with nothing that amounted to anything close to substantive rebuttals and no indication of any direct experience. I was going to ask you a few things regarding your direct experiences Analogman

What I find interesting is that I believe that some on the forum seem to internalize everything in the context of themselves and do not realize that they are NOT the target market for the $10,000 speaker wires or cables. For the person that buys the $400,000 pair of speakers or the $250,000 pair of speakers, spending another $10,000 on cables is essentially "pocket change" to them and comes to about 2.5% and 4% respectively of the cost of the speakers themselves. Note that the wire has cost less than the sales tax that they may have paid when purchasing the speakers. Over the last 10 years or so, through my current employment, I've had the opportunity to interact with a few extremely wealthy CEOs; and worrying about the "cost" of something, and who might be swayed by, what some here consider spurious or specious advertising, is the last thing on their minds. Everything being said about "over priced cables" can be said about amps, speakers, cartridges, turntables and other audio gear. The complaint boils down to: "I disagree with the value." So what? Don't buy them. Most people aren't familiar with the internals of amplifier design, so they rarely feel qualified to comment about the value of a $90,000 amplifier. But, having some experience in the field, I can easily see that some $90,000 amps have nothing more physically in them than their $2,000 counterparts do, aside from "higher perceived value." If a guy with a huge reputation can build an amp, and charge 45X the parts cost, and an unknown guy can barely get the price of his parts back, what's wrong with that? Any angst over that is simply a form of resentment. When I read the posts against wire, all I see in them is disguised resentment. And, it's a resentment not applied to other gear, where high value pricing happens also. The global economy runs on perceived value. And those perceptions are relative. In addition to wire and cables, the other topic where I see the “Orwellian-like two minutes of hate” crop up is in relation to Bose speakers. A while back Eric and I tried to describe direct experience about the intended goals, the limitations, and consumer market niche (which tends to not be the audio enthusiast) and we were figuratively beat over the head and various attempts were made to flush us down the toilet with nothing that amounted to anything close to substantive rebuttals and no indication of any direct experience. You worked for Bose? Analogman

What I find interesting is that I believe that some on the forum seem to internalize everything in the context of themselves and do not realize that they are NOT the target market for the $10,000 speaker wires or cables. For the person that buys the $400,000 pair of speakers or the $250,000 pair of speakers, spending another $10,000 on cables is essentially "pocket change" to them and comes to about 2.5% and 4% respectively of the cost of the speakers themselves. Note that the wire has cost less than the sales tax that they may have paid when purchasing the speakers. Over the last 10 years or so, through my current employment, I've had the opportunity to interact with a few extremely wealthy CEOs; and worrying about the "cost" of something, and who might be swayed by, what some here consider spurious or specious advertising, is the last thing on their minds. Everything being said about "over priced cables" can be said about amps, speakers, cartridges, turntables and other audio gear. The complaint boils down to: "I disagree with the value." So what? Don't buy them. Most people aren't familiar with the internals of amplifier design, so they rarely feel qualified to comment about the value of a $90,000 amplifier. But, having some experience in the field, I can easily see that some $90,000 amps have nothing more physically in them than their $2,000 counterparts do, aside from "higher perceived value." If a guy with a huge reputation can build an amp, and charge 45X the parts cost, and an unknown guy can barely get the price of his parts back, what's wrong with that? Any angst over that is simply a form of resentment. When I read the posts against wire, all I see in them is disguised resentment. And, it's a resentment not applied to other gear, where high value pricing happens also. The global economy runs on perceived value. And those perceptions are relative.

And after that recommendation you proceeded to stay in the thread and throw straw man arguments at me (and others) and references that border on the ad homienem attacks that eth2 references below. And after that recommendation you proceeded to stay in the thread and throw straw man arguments at me (and others) and references that border on the ad homienem attacks that eth2 references below.

I would also appreciate suggestions for other high level cables. I offered that: Mogami bulk wire I also provided a link to their current catalog Remind me again, what was your suggestion? Analogman

What I find interesting is that I believe that some on the forum seem to internalize everything in the context of themselves and do not realize that they are NOT the target market for the $10,000 speaker wires or cables. For the person that buys the $400,000 pair of speakers or the $250,000 pair of speakers, spending another $10,000 on cables is essentially "pocket change" to them and comes to about 2.5% and 4% respectively of the cost of the speakers themselves. Over the last 10 years or so I've had the opportunity to interact with a few extremely wealthy CEOs and worrying about the "cost" of something and who might be swayed by what some here consider spurious or specious advertising is the last thing on their minds. CEOs NOT "worrying" about costs is one of the big reasons this Country is in the sh%t hole it is in On many levels Politicians as well Credit consumers as well Good sense is good sense no matter who you are or your station in Life Citing the pissing away of money simply because you are able isn't a very convincing position to my mind Analogman I find it interesting in what you were able to "read into my post" and what you apparently missed. The written word and its various interpretations sure fascinates me. While I'm not stating that I disagree with your view of the privileged that have the opportunity to reside in the class structure we live under, I believe that you may have missed the point that Mark was making or my point in how consumerism works in this country. Would our time be better spent fighting the high prices charged for cable to the person that has more money than they will ever know how to spend or would our time be better spent finding ways to prevent the person living paycheck to paycheck from gambling next month's rent in the casino and give them the opportunity to afford zip cord? I wrote: "On many levels" Has nothing to do with my views on the "privileged" (whatever THAT means) I think you may be the one "reading into" things Waste is waste as is arrogance, stupidity and decadence at others' expense No, I am not eluding to "class envy"; another poster took this one on a philosophical bent, not I Rationalize away And I am happy to learn you are fascinated and find so many things "interesting" Analogman