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When did you last here a distinct difference between amps?
Signals replied to chn68b's topic in 2-Channel Home Audio
I'm a tone control advocate, HOWEVER, I must say that since I purchased the Technics Amp I barely use the controls anymore. I'm not sure if it's because I just like the overall sound, or something else altogether. But, yeah, I could see your point, especially since my amp isn't even in the same ball park of the really great ones. -
When did you last here a distinct difference between amps?
Signals replied to chn68b's topic in 2-Channel Home Audio
It sure is, and don't let the low power ratungs fool you, there's plenty of muscle. For what it's worth, I understand that a new "M" version of this amplifier will be avaialble soon. I'd like to compare it to the original. -
When did you last here a distinct difference between amps?
Signals replied to chn68b's topic in 2-Channel Home Audio
This is a great thread as I recently discovered a difference myself. Some background first: I'm 54 years old and dabbled in HiFi in the early eighties, but nothing too serious or expensive. Forward to 2018 and I decided to get back into the game, albeit slowly. For reference, I played drums for many years and am well aware of the upgrade bug -- having owned 30+ new kits. ....and don't even get me started on cymbals and snare drums. So, I wanted to proceed cautiously when buying audio gear. Anyhow....back to 2018: I purchased an Outlaw RR2160 because of its bang-for-the-buck price. I soon added a Marantz CD6006 and then Klipsch RP280 speakers. Once I heard the Klipsch I fell in love with the sound, but I wanted MORE. So, I was getting ready to purchase a set of Forte IIIs when all of a sudden, the Forte IVs came out, so I bought those instead (thanks Paducah!) I ran the Forte IV's with the RR2160 for quite some time, but I thought that perhaps I wasn't doing the speakers justice, so I demoed the Technics SU-G700 with them. I didn't know much about the amp other than that it was digital, and I liked Technics back in the day, so why not. I proceeded to A/B the Technics against the Outlaw and could immediately hear a considerable difference. Actually, it was almost a religious experience, lol. I don't know all the audiophile terms, but I would describe the sound from the Technics as cleaner, fuller and much more massive -- and there was definitely a difference in the overall sound. I even let my 18-year-old daughter (and her boyfriend) listen, and they whole heartedly agreed. Afterwards, I purchased the matching CD player and haven't looked back since (Yes, I even heard a difference between the CD players!). Now don't get me wrong, I LOVED the Outlaw and highly recommend it, its just that I preferred the sound of the Technics. Well, that's it! Oh wait, one more thing. I feel funny even mentioning this because I'm aware that it's a volatile topic, but here it goes: For the first three years of owning my new setup I used Crutchfield cables, because as most of you know, expensive cables are nothing but snake oil. Well....a few weeks ago I decide to change my cables, just for fun, so I purchased something a bit more expensive. Not high end by any means, but a bit more costly than what I had. ....and...I heard an immediate difference. I know, I know, but I'm just telling you my experience. They really did make a difference. I still can't believe it, but it is what it is. lol Oh, one last thing. When I returned to audio in 2018 I was STUNNED to learn that tone controls were out of fashion. I was like "really?" Thank God that the Technics unit has bass, treble and MID adjustments, although I hardly use them now. Go figure! (Their LAPC correction is the real deal!) -
That's an Outlaw Audio rr2160. I think it sounds fantastic.
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That's a good idea, thank you. I have similar padding under my gym equipment, and yep, it has turned my linoleum floor yellow underneath.
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Thank you. I think I'm good now! :)
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Of course. I'm an ex-drummer who has owned many exotic-wood kits costing $$$. I baby my gear and take great care in preventing scratches and the like. I have small, thick rubber pads underneath the lamp bases, and the lamps themselves are very light.
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Those are mine. I moved up from the RP-280Fs, and the Forte IVs are the best speakers I have ever owned. However, they bother my ears for some reason -- don't know if it's because they're 3-way, they're pointed more directly at me (as oppossed to the 280's tilt), or something else. Anyhoo...I decided to pull them off CL and work with them some more because I really, really love them. I put up some room treatments, moved my seat back, and decreased the toe in without sacrificing the nice center-imaging that I get. One other thing, I'm not playing them as loud as I normally do. I had to break-up the nice, even triangle I had formed between the speakers and the listening position, but I think it has all has worked.
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Yep, I saw that a few days ago, and I appreciate it. I went with the IV's from you guys, and I am so very glad that I did. They are absolutely wonderful -- best I ever had. It was a pleasure dealing with you folks!
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The left side of both speakers look like the sides of yours, the right side of both speakers have monster face. Here's the other speaker -- it's not in a corner so it was easier to take a pic. Regardless, someone said earlier in this thread that the Fortes are big and bad, and I have to agree. I haven't heard sound like this since I got out of high-fi in the late eighties. Speaking of which, I was shocked to learn that tone controls are a no-no these days. ...not for me though, I purchased my Outlaw 2160 in part because it has separate bass and treble controls. Now, if only equalizers were back in fashion! :-)
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Darkscience, The pattern on the top of my speakers look the same as yours, however, the sides look like a monster's face, lol! I'm pretty OCD, but this doesn't bother me because I don't really see the sides anyways, and the speakers are black to begin with. Here's a pic:
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Nope. Two folders, but no feet. The folders (and the manual) are a nice touch though. Very classy. I'll just grab some from Home Depot. Thanks very much for helping out. (By the way, the poster was a nice touch too!)
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The Forte IV manual states that they're supplied with self-stick rubber feet, but I cannot locate any in the packaging. Did anyone receive the feet, and if so, where did you find them? Thanks
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^ Thanks Shakey!
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Ok, so I broke down and played a few minutes of my Van Halen I CD. I like how it's recorded and thought that it would make a good candidate for first impressions since I know the disc fairly well. I placed the speakers in an 8ft equalteral triangle, the same place where I had my RP-280Fs as seen in the pic above. From there I moved them towards the back wall until they were about 6 inches away, and then I played around with towing them in slightly. My first thoughts are that they like being near the wall and that the "center" was decent and present no matter where I placed them. It seems that the "sweet spot" is much wider than I anticipated. I'm probably going to place a few shims under the front to see how they sound pointed upwards towards my ear a little more. Regardless, I could immediately tell that these are capable of far more than my previous speakers -- bass, treble, mids -- everything is fuller and more authoritative if that makes sense. Right now I'm a happy camper and feel that they can only get better.