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I have low 6.5 inch ceilings, and a Tile Floor, so what do I do to the Midrange Horn in my La Scala's, and what material shall I use ? How far back into the horn shall the sound material go ?

Thanks Chris ! I am reading the discussion by Roy Delgado, and it is quite interesting. I moved my LaScala's into the corners a few hours ago, basically firing in front of me, and they sound pretty good. Bass is greatly increased, and imaging is pretty good too.

OK, how do you download this ?

LOL, you set the levels all even, but as soon as something get's loud in the left and right LaScala's, look out! It drowns the little Academy right out. Finally, I just gave up, and use a Phantom Center

If you or anyone else could point me toward that crossed horns article by PWK, I would greatly appreciate it

Coming from Dunlavy SC IV's that are 6 feet tall, my LaScala's seem normal to me. All I currently have on them is an Academy Center, and it just can't keep up with the LaScala right and left.

If I had Klipschorns instead of LaScala's, the speakers would be firing in front of me, if they were flush in the corners.

This is what has sounded best to me too, but I want to give the corners one more try, because I am trying not to use my Subwoofer

I have a pair of LaScala's My listening position places me closer to the left corner speaker then the right corner speaker. Is it best to fire the horns right at me, or is it better to fire the horns down the longest dimensions of the room, like at an imaginary spot in front of me ?

Indeed, it is quite confusing! There are 2 AL crossover schematics posted above, what one do you mean ?

My Son just gave me his old Pioneer Elite SC 87 We both had one, I sold mine because on my Old Dunlavy SC IV speakers, my Onkyo TX NR 809 beat it in sound quality. I have 3 receivers here, besides the Pioneer Elite VSX 94 I currently have hooked up to the La Scala's. I am using it as a pre amp to drive my Apogee SA 800 B amp. I have the ONKYO back from being repaired at ONKYO I am a Harman Kardon AVR 247 And, the Pioneer SC 87, with the D3 digital amp. LOL, decisions decisions decisions ......

I used to own a Sherwood receiver, with the Trinnov Processor. I sold it because it had severe HDMI Handshake problems, and never even tried it's processor. I was unaware that Pioneer was the first. IMHO, it would be nice to have a built in room correction, that would only do subwoofers. My Son just had an Anthem Receiver that did just that, and left the speakers above 4 or 500 hz alone. According to Floyd Toole, he says that is the best way to do it.

I have a Sub I need to hook up. I have been deliberately listening to the La Scala's by themselves, since they are new to me.

I have a Pioneer VSX 94 THX that has MCACC And the Pioneer I am getting back soon from my Son has the D3 amps I am more used to Audyssey, and initially did not like MCACC as much as Audyssey, until I played with it. Now, I like it MORE I am still playing, and for the sake of this thread, more reading, though those people don't :count: as much to me, because most are not Klipsch Owners http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1112470-official-pioneer-mcacc-thread.html BUMP

I drove clear across Tampa Bay to get it, but it is in the car, in the front seat of my little Miata Convertible. I literally just walked in the door, feeding my face right now. I will hook it up, as soon a the spirit moves me

I have to drive clear across Tampa Bay to pick up the HK AVR 247 this morning. I am also very interested in the Niles

When my Son's new Marantz comes, he is giving me his Pioneer, but the one he has has the Digital D3 amp. It will be interesting to compare the 2 Pioneer's I did let the MCACC set all levels, and I do have a monster sub, it is called a Legacy Dual Impact. I am deliberately not using it right now, because I want to hear the La Scala's w/o any subwoofer. The ONKYO 809 should be getting fixed by ONKYO very soon, and I am picking up the Harman Kardon AVR 247 tomorrow . It is said that PWK had a high regard for the work of Dr Matti Otala of Finland in the identification and reduction of T.I.M. and HK amps are said to have un measurable TIM. They have their own style of auto set up and room eq called EZ Set

My last major pair of Speakers were the 6 ft tall Dunlavy SC IV's I had a Pioneer Elite with digital D3 amp, the same kind my Son is giving back to me. LOL, because the Dunlavy SC IV's are "perfect", and are known to pass a square wave, I never ran the MCACC I came across an ONKYO TX NR 809 that sounded better on the Dunlavy's, so I dumped the Pioneer. Then, my Onkyo crapped out, and in desperation, I bought this Pioneer Elite VSX 94 locally. I am much more familiar with Audyssey than the MCACC I was out there listening the past hour, I like it, especially the imaging! I thought that Full Band Phase Control was a bunch of BS, but it is not. I still aint crazy about the sound of the Pioneer AMP. Just for kicks, I unhooked the Apogee SA 800 B amp, ran the La Scala's receiver direct. The Apogee amp sounded better. I watched a little bit of Monday Night Football, and MCACC did a good job. I am only running a Klipsch Academy Center, and it is having a hard time keeping up with my La Scala's, LOL The levels are all the same for the 3 front channels. However, when the right and left La Scala's start to get loud, it nearly drowns out the Academy Center

Well, I went and ran the MCACC again, placing the tri pod on my couch at the exact height of my ears, and this time, I think it worked! It has changed the sound of the La Scala's, and I must listen for awhile to compare, see how I like it. But, one thing is FOR SURE - That full band phase control is no joke! It makes the speakers image like crazy. Impressive !

TYVM ! I have run the MCACC, but only once, maybe I need to run it again ? My beloved ONKYO TX NR 809 took a crap, it has Audyssey. So far, I think Audyssey sounds a little better than Pioneer's MCACC, mainly because it gives you 2 curves, vs MCACC's one. I am very very interested in HOW that Niles switcher works

Cool ! I am less then impressed with the Pioneer Elite amp in my VSX 94 THX. It is called their "Direct Energy" amp. It is NOT their digital amp. The had an ICE digital Amp, then went to the direct energy series, and then finally to their Own Digital amp, called the D3 amp. Tell me more about this Niles DSP switcher

Finally, the guy selling the Harman Kardon AVR 247 will allow me to pick it up tomorrow.

Well, I have my ONKYO TX NR 809 coming back from ONKYO, and then my Son is giving me his Pioneer Elite receiver, with the D3 Digital amp, and of course, the Harman Kardon AVR , so I will have plenty of Toys to throw at the La Scala's.

There seem to be quite a few of those Adcom surround processors and 3 ch amps to be had, cheap! I just found one local here. It is only Dolby Pro Logic, but who really gives a dam. ? If I got one of these, then I need a remote controlled Tube Integrated, with a subwoofer output, but since my Sub has an amp and crossover, I may be able to figure something out ? I really sort of need some way to alter channel balance, since I am not exactly centered between my La Scala's I called the dude who has the Harman Kardon for sale, he was busy today, and I am busy tomorrow Adcom GSP 560 Surround Sound 3 Channel Amplifier with Remote Control - $90

These older Apogee amplifiers are not at all expensive, not are the QSC PLX series. The Apogee SA 800 B weighs 60 lbs, and because it is fan cooled, the money was spent on circuit boards with huge copper traces, and a monster transformer, vs heat sinks. I really did not want to go in this direction (monster amps) with my new to me La Scala's, but they are all that I have at the moment. I do have a small Hafler Trans Nova amp, and also a Big Hafler Pro amp that is all Mos Fet, but one amp hums, and one has a scratchy noise in 1 channel. All I have proved so far is, the Apogee SA 800 B amp sounds the best, using the Pioneer VSX 94 THX as a pre amp. With a different pre amp, the QSC PLX 1602 may very well beat the big Apogee ?