GooseChaser

The Ellington orchestra was already much renowned by the time Strayhorn joined the band in the late 30's, and the orchestra had also produced some of its most well-known pieces before Strayhorn. Between Strayhorn's arrival and the early 40's, the fertile Webster-Blanton period produced some of the greatest compositions in Ellingtonia, during which time Strayhorn penned some of his best work as well. It was a great time of collaboration, but not as developed as their collaboration would be in the later years. So, their critical compositions were often mostly independent of the other composer. In the ensuing years, the only hit that Strayhorn produced was "Satin Doll". As did a number of other individuals during different periods, Strayhorn's contribution to the orchestra and its sound was great, but it was just that, a contribution. Personally, I find both Ellington and Strayhorn to be two of the musical giants of the last century. I rarely go a day without listening to their work. I get the feeling that you simply don't enjoy Ellington's music very much or you literally credit much of Ellingtonia(or what you find worth a while in it) to Strayhorn. Because if you simply meant mass popularity by "success", Ellington had already achieved it before meeting Strayhorn. Also, Strayhorn was an unknown musician at the time and could have remained in obscurity had he not joined the orchestra. It would be ironic and false to state that the recognition Ellington received was due to Strayhorn, when it is quite literally the opposite. So, the implication of your statement seems to be that much of Ellington's artistic success was actually the work of Strayhorn. I would really like to know how you came to this conclusion. I can accept that one prefers Strayhorn's music over Ellington's. But, what you stated is a little different from a simple preference.

bclarke421, I think you are mistaking doubling of wattage (3dB increase) with doubling of sound pressure. Those two are not the same thing. Mathmatically, 3dB increase is twice the sound intensity, not to be confused with sound pressure. 6dB increase is technically doubling the sound pressure, but it is widely accepted that 10dB is "perceived" by human ears as twice as loud. 3dB may be twice the sound power per unit mathmatically but what we actually hear is something else.

The 4.1s were designed to be kept on, period. Unless there's a thunderstorm or you won't be around the house for a few day or more, leave the 4.1s on.

The guy who started this thread obviously has no intention in intelligently discussing anything. He made the thread to incite reactions for his amusement. Look back at all his other threads. Not a single one is serious.

If you can't get the center channel up and horizontal, unscrew the horn and turn it 90 degrees. If you haven't done this already, you are sending a lot of high frequencies over the carpet and have a smaller horizontal off axis range, 30 degrees less to be exactly, than setting the center channel horizontally. And the RF-7s seem mighty close to the wall, aren't they ported at the back?

Don't buy used multimedia speakers, especially over the web. ( unless it is warranted and directly from the manufacturer)

Cluless, I did the warning thread when this happened for the second time at the promedia 5.1 forum a year back. This is pretty effective at letting those who'd prefer not to see any of the nasty pictures as I check the number of hits the thread with explicit pictures got after the warning thread went up. A thing to keep in mind is that the culprit might post some pictures in the warning thread as he did in my warning thread or he might try a fake warning thread. The person who makes the warning thread needs include the names of the infected threads and the culprits, what is going on, and that the reader shouldn't look beyond the first post in case the culprit posts anything(and give a good space after the message or leave a few empty posts within the warn thread on purpose) and keep bumping the warning thread to the top of the forum.

Colin, First of all, I am the one who brought up the RB-25s because I confused Jay with another forum member who is looking to buy a pair of those. Jay is looking to power a pair of RF-7s Secondly, I am not sure what he is expecting to do with them. He keeps bringing up wattage and the size of the basement. I think Jay's looking to blast the entire basement with the RF-7s. Three words, Jay. Rent pro gear. If I am wrong and Jay's looking for an excellent two channel system with a comfortable couch for him and his buddies to listen to great music on, I'd give some of the vintage recommendations a serious consideration.

60x60 basement of what? What exactly are you expecting to do with the RF-7s?

Oops, sorry Jay. I confused you with theeliteone. 40 watts are enough to theoratically achieving 117.75dB of sound pressure which is enough to blast your eardrums. Though, receivers should never be driven to the point of maximum output, let's calculate them for comparison sake. 80 watts achieve 120.75dB of acoustic output with the RF-7s. 100 watts achieve 121.5dB. And, 120 watts achieve 122.1dB. The point is, all these options are too damn loud. So don't worry about how much watts these receivers have, just how they sound.

---------------- On 6/5/2004 1:14:11 PM Jay481985 wrote: but that getting real close to the 80watt max of the yamaha and yeah im thinking pb2+ for subwoofer---------------- There's a large gap between using a pair of RB-25s for personal two channel listening and parties. With 94dB sensitivity and power handling of 75 watts continuous, the RB-25s just do not have the headroom in sound pressure to handle a frat party. Even if you had a 300 watt amplification with the RB-25s, there will be a serious risk of burning the speakers' voice coils at a loud party. In the case of two channel listening, you are not likely to use over half the power of Yamaha RX-596, so the power handling of the RB-25s nor the 80 watts of Yamaha RX-596 would be a problem.

---------------- On 6/3/2004 7:05:39 PM leok wrote: ss (transistor) amps ar likely to sound harsh and thin with Klipsch speakers. This is because Klipsch speakers use very little power and at low power, many ss amps have a lot of distortion. The Yamaha you mention may be OK, but it is risky. There are a few (digital) amps available now that don't necessarily have the low power distortion problem. Other contributors to this forum have tried them and may be able to help you. Leo ---------------- Leo, how audible is this distortion? Within many classical music recordings I own, there are many extremely quiet passages as well many loud ones. Say a single vocal part riding on a solemn melody followed by a loud passage where the entire orchestra kicks in. Over the years, I've read a few other posts where you've mention this distortion and I would like to know exactly what I should expect to hear. My two channel consists of a pair of RB-5s and a Yamaha RX-596 receiver. Thanks.

---------------- On 6/4/2004 11:27:06 PM Jay481985 wrote: oh i'm a college kid i might be moving into a frat with a basement of 60' by 60' conservative numbers. plus they also have a rush month where they would blair the speakers outside at full volume---------------- Dude, let someone else abuse their speakers for this kind of purpose such as parties and whatnot. Among Klipsch loudspeakers, the RB-25s have a modest sensitivity of 94dB @ 1watt/1meter. With the Yamaha RX-596, you should be able to push near 112dB of sound pressure without straining the receiver. This is more than enough for personal listening, but you may not realize how much a bunch of loud people at a party can drown out a pair of speakers. Besides, you'd need a subwoofer for parties. I repeat, let someone else abuse their speakers and amplification. By the way, the power handling for the RB-25s are 75 watts continuous and 300 watts at peak. Since a pair of RB-5s and a Yamaha RX-596 are my first two channel, I don't have much else to compare this combo with. But, I can attest that I personally don't find any remarkable flaws in the highs as some Klipsch owners have claimed with other Yamaha amplifications. EDIT: As far the RF-7s are concerned, you'll find that 80 watt is plenty for just about any situation. 120dB with only 64 watts, and remember this is without considering room gain.

Device controls, not the speaker setting. I am already doing what you are trying to do with the audigy. Trust me, this is the way.

Go to the control panel and open AudioHQ. Launch Device Controls and change the setting to AC-3 SPDIF-in decode under the digital input tab. Done and done.