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I own a pair of Zen Se84C Selects bridged. They have been used to power a pair of Von Schweikert VR4.5s, a pair of Conrwall IIs, and now a pair of Decware HDTs (High Definition Towers) using a modified Fostex 206E full-range drivers. I can tell you having had many different high-end SS and tube amps over the years, the Zens are by far the cleanest amps I've ever used. The purity of sound, detail, imaging, timbre are all amazing in my rather small listening room (12'X 13') If you are looking for that SET/Full range magic, this combo is addictive. For lower effeicient speakers(under 93-94db) the Zen signature momos, integrated, or push-pull is required.

Just wanted to thank a bunch of you for providing a lot of good insight on Klipsch products particularly info on the Cornwalls, which I recently parted with after a 2 year love affair. The Cornwall 2s were my first entree into high efficiency speakers with my tube amps, and I learned a lot in that time. If I had either 1) a bigger listening room to allow then to really breath and work at their best, or 2) a higher WAF that would let me place them in a bigger room in the house - I probably would have kept these much, much longer. I have gone the way of a full-range, single-driver design called the HDT(High Definition Tower) by Steve Deckert at http://www.decware.com Steve has done a great custom mod on the Fostex 206E 8" driver, built in a cabinet of his own design that is just the ticket in my 12'x13' music room. They are slightly less efficient than the Cornwalls (96db), but that is no issue here. They can much louder than i listen 90% of the time. His mods to the drivers themselves eliminate the "shout" sometimes associated with single-driver designs, and the cabinet design itself is quite unique and produces incredibly tight and natural bass, which is sometimes missing from designs with these drivers as well. They are still breaking in and blooming more each day, but right out of the box I could tell they were going to be staying for a long while. The imaging is breathtaking and height, width, and depth of the soundstage are amazing. They are resolving greater detail than the Cornwalls and reproducing more accurate timbre of instruments than I ever seemed to be able to get from the Cornwalls. Not that the Cornwalls weren't capable, like I said, my room was more of a limitation to the Cornwalls capabilities than the speakers themselves. I hope terry, the new and 3rd owner of the Cornwalls, enjoys them as much as I did. Nice to be able to pass them along to another owner who will get many more years of enjoyment out of them. Again, thanks for the insight, advice, and good humor. I'm sure I'll pop in now and again to pick up some tidbits

***************These have been sold !!*******************

Maybe I should take another pic of them with my wife hanging her hooters out over top of them

Zoocow... I will be in Pittsburgh the end of june for a pair of Dave Matthews Band shows at Star Lake. If you think the finances may be in order by then, let me know, you might get delivery !

I had posted these on here about 2-3 months ago, but hadn't gotten pics up, and have been too busy up until now. These are a fine pair of Cornwalls IIs in excellent shape all the way around with the following exceptions: 1) The grill clothes on both have some minor fraying, I could not get it to show up in the digital pics. 2) Each cabinet has 1-2 not even penil point size nicks on the side of the cabinets. Again, too small to even show up on the digital pics. 3) There is one pic of the top of what is my right speaker. There is a discoloration (looks like the previous owner had a glass set on top or something) This barely shows in the pic, and would easily be removed by someone who likes working with wood. Not my forte, so i didn't want to make it worse ! I am asking $800 + shipping. Which from what I see others going for here and ebay, is very reasonable. I would prefer a local buyer (maryland/dc/deleware/lower pa) I would see them to a local buyer for $775 to save the work in shipping Copy and paste for photos: http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/loosingitt1/album?.tok=phJqW5AB0Z8xt45.&.dir=/5c20&.src=ph E:mail me: loosingitt1@yahoo.com with any questions. Cheers

Give the amps and tubes some time to burn in. My experience with tube gear is they both take a little time to "mellow out" Once they do, you'll be grinning ear to ear

Yes, gary and I have traded messages, he has the WAF issues, which I understand. I'm gonna hold off perhaps a few more weeks before going the E-bay route. My new speakers are 5-6 weeks away from being built.

topping... these are still available. I will be putting them up on E-bay monday, so you might save a little cash. I'm asking $900 but it is negotiable based on what shipping need to be done .......

Hello folks... Haven't been around here in a while. New job, new computer, etc, etc, I have recently aquired a new set of single driver speakers that I think I am going to make my reference. I'd like to keep the Cornwalls, but space is a problem. I figured I offer them up here before going the e-bay route. The are 1987 all original Oak cabinets in Very Good condition. Serial#s 8766007/08 There are a few blemishes here and there, and a slight scratch on one of the grillclothes (black). The top of one speaker has a small red stain that looks like red wine or cool-aid (all from original owner) The only mod done was to damp the woofer baskets with some caulk. If you are interested, e:mail me: loosingitt1@yahoo.com I will try to get some digial photos up in the next day or 2. Reasonable offers acepted. I'd prefer a local buyer (I am in Maryland, close to baltimore) due to the shipping issues - but I know there are The Crates floating around in this community that could be obtained by a motivated buyer.

so, when does the great direct drive vs. belt drive debate start.

I know you stated you were looking at "classic" tubes, but I would highly recommend a visit to http:www.decware.com and check out some of Steve Deckert's designs. I own a pair of the SE-84C-Selects with a pair of Cornwall IIs, and the music in my room has never been better

my brother has an electrovio "discreet quadrophonic" all-in-one receiver, tuner, and yes...... 8 TRACK player. He also has some quad records, though his TT is shot. The reciever has like a joystick with this flourescent display for the balance control.... trippy. He is the only person on the planet I know who has quad, that is still working and he still uses this up in his home office... those Frank Zappa, Jethro Tull, and ELP 8 tracks sound groovy....

Mike, My Cornwall IIs are in almost exactly the same sized room as yours. I can get them as loud as I can handle without brightness/harshness. I found the secret to be NOT toeing them in more than a hair (and sometimes not at ALL) I have them 18" out on the short wall, 15" from the sides, 5' apart and about 7' from the listening position. The imaging and soundstage (particualrly depth) are simply amazing. Enjoy !!

they are the "Select" version of the SE84C. I'm using NO pre-amp. My turntable set-up is currently on hiatus, so with only one source (CD), I am able to take advantage of the gain control provided on the Zens, and not have to to use ANY preamp. Having this direct a signal path has proven to be a very good thing, indeed