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Weird... forum says i don't have permission to post in this group?... [^o)] so let me try again ... Has anyone had experience with http://www.veneersupplies.com (the supply part of the www.joewoodworker.com website)? ... I've narrowed it down to them and http://oakwoodveneer.com for my project ... Thanks... ROb

Has anyone had experience with http://www.veneersupplies.com (the supply part of the www.joewoodworker.com website)? ... I've narrowed it down to them and www.oakwoodveneer.com ... and looking for experiances ... Another three to add to the list: http://certainlywood.com http://www.tapeease.com http://www.woodworkerssource.com thanks... ROb

Nice step by step Rivernuggets...

Sorry for the hi-jack Peter... but i just came across this picture Wow... nice paint job... I notice you mention automotive black + clear coat... you do this yourself? How many coats... what kind of primer... wet sanding?... got a paint booth? I'm contemplating lacquering my center channel... but more to come on that... thanks... ROb

Unfortunately, both those brands are only available internet direct... but they do make good subwoofers. The thing with highly efficient mains is they require large / powerfull subs to keep up with them. If you are looking for a commercially available subwoofer, personnally I'd probably look into one of the horn loaded subwoofers from Danley Sound Labs... but you have to be flexible on esthetics. [] ROb

Not sure if i understand your question... but... yes, a Non-Powered subwoofer requires a seperate, external, amplifier and crossover (the later may be integrated in your preamplifier or reciever)... ROb

Sounds like the phase may be inversed (externally or internally) ... Or some cancelations occurring...

I'm running a Khorn / Cornscala / Cornwall 5.1 setup and I too feel a sub is a must. Even though those speakers have good clean bass, i feel modern recordings (and a couple of exceptional older ones) have alot more lower bass than we imagine. Having heard that lowest octave, I can't go back to 2.0.... ROb

I would agree too with the La Scala as center. I wonder about doing a khorn center, it would have an enclosed back like the 60th anniversary did. PSG. this would be perfect in your setup! Yup, I've seen that version of frzinvt setup... But at the time he was in crampt quarters, hoping to upgrade. And Q-Man had a modified klipschorn centre... Interesting adaptation (lied the bass bin on it's side).... But you need the room... But I agree with the above in that a LaScala would be the best 'small' center from klipsch... Followed by the belle. I'm running my own stumpy version of a DIY Cornscala (using khorn mid and high, and the Cornwall woofer), as many others here... As I needed the height to fit in my screen and a heresy wasn't enough. The surrounds are much less critical IMHO ... I'm just running cornwalls...

Emissions may be an issue though... :-/

Thanks guys for those suggestions and links... I agree there are almost infinite choices out there. Taste wise; I'm a bit in the same line of thinking as Gil... leaning towards a veneer with dept, yet that is not garish as my room does have pretty modern / clean lines. I do like the golden / reddish looks (like the lacewood)… perhaps I’ll order a sample book. Just for reference sake, the sites mentioned so far are: http://oakwoodveneer.com http://certainlywood.com http://www.veneeronline.com http://www.joewoodworker.com By the way… anyone post a “lacquering” how too on here?… And don’t be shy to add your favourite veneer to the recommendation list... thanks… ROb

I've been working on refinishing my D-Series Khorns... and I'm contemplating different veneering options, so I thought I'd start a thread to collect some suggestions. I've opted to go with a cabinet styling similar to the current model (very thin collar, flush top, etc) but I'm going to paint the top cabinet black like the 60th anniversary edition. This will match my cornscala centre I've recessed into the wall that I will also be painting in black. All the speaker cloth will be black. What that leaves me with is the very visible k-horn front panels to veneer... as well as my rear channels. I'm hoping / feeling it'll produce a striking front end in my current décor. Now to the crux of the matter... choosing a nice veneer, with depth, that goes with my taste. So far, a couple of veneers have caught my eye such as: Lacewood – same as was used on the 60th anniversary Klipschorns http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/3579/product_image/thm/t450_x1_5509ef9becc336964cbcb8343e91c419.jpg Bosse Cedar – same as Greg's Volti Audio Vittora Speakers (greg928gts) ... both his craftsmanship and veneer is stunning on those. Is it hard enough a wood? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/9/1570564/caf3.jpg Sapele – it can be quite stunning... I'm not sure if it would be a bit to much for a khorn though?... http://www.kinnairdguitars.com/Guitars/L00/49/Sapele_guitar_030webpage.jpg So lets hear which you prefer...or which veneer would you like to see a khorn in... ROb

Greg, those are stunning speakers!!...You've really taken this pass time to a new level... ROb

Yes, but I’ll trade you a Molson if you keep this to yourself...

I figured I’d post even though I don’t have much advice as I’m kind of in the same position... I have also been considering the AV7005 while cautious of the Emotiva... looking for other alternatives. One option I’m considering as well is using the Anthem MRX 500 as a pre-pro due to the ARC software. I’m currently looking for a dealer (and free time) where I could audition one head to head with a Marantz... Just thought I’d throw it out there… ROb

All three actually... [] It's looking quite advanced from the pictures... what have you got left to do? The flush LaScala center detail is nice... What have you planned for the ceiling?

On a sabbatical of sorts, I guess... Got busy with life, post ‘divorce’... but missing my hobbies. I did manage to build my interpretation of a Cornscala center channel... and started visually converting my D series Klipschorns into hybrid of B an C similar to the current versions... but I’ve been short on time. [*-)] Yup... even though I avoided the IB discussion earlier (I had seriously considered some horn loaded alternatives, before settling on an IB)… I’m very satisfied with my IB, which is still pumping away effortlessly... How about you? See you’ve got one of each... Reminds me of a quote from Lucky Number Slevin... “I live on both sides of the fence. My grass is always green.” ROb

I feel it's due numerous reasons including larger budgets, the sound engineer working with the assumption that the system includes a capable subwoofer, controlling in studio what gets sent to which channel... as well as working to create a feeling rather than pure reproduction…. to name a few. There are some beautifully dynamic CDs out there… but it’s a crap shoot sometimes. But what I really wanted to say was… Your sub looks great!... talk about testing one's woodworking skills... [Y] ROb

Agreed with dtel... frequencies are logarithmic... so at those frequencies, 3000Hz only represents a fraction of an octave (and 23 is not tha young... []) I too feel their largest shortcoming by far is the bass response…

Didn't think that was really possible... []

I've found it to be tricky in longer lenghts, as it'll really depend what kind of RF and EM noise there is present near the installation. You may be lucky... but i've had a case where 25ft proved too long...

Chicago was the main home of Frank Lloyd Wright... often regarded as one of America's most famous architects.... many tours and buildings to visit (both his and others)... http://www.ci.chi.il.us/Landmarks/Architects/Wright.html

very neat... and OCD... lol... []

Surprised no one has mentionned the JBL Hartsfield... (which so many seem to rave about... though i have never seen or heard a pair...) and those are just his rear surrounds... []

I'm another to use K-horns mains... IB subwoofer... and Cornwall rears... while i'll be soon replacing my Heresy center with a custom CornScala shortly... which will hopefully provide the closest match possible without using an actual K-Horn. I seem to recall Q-man modifing a Khorn (placed it's bass bin sideways to use the wall floor intersection) to use it as a center at one point. The problem with the typical vertical Khorn is it requires a false corner and an acoustically transparent projection screen... otherwise the screen ends up being too high on the wall for comfortable viewing IMHO. The idea behind the custom CornScala is to maximize bass (LaScala's seem quite lean compared to Khorns), minimizing the height, eliminating the need for the false corner, and keeping the same upper section on all three front speakers. http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/64932.aspx?PageIndex=14