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2 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
I was there when Mrs. Dtel and daughter all looked at each other and said "we want those."
That's is exactly what happened.
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WOW Bruce that's an old picture, I had to look it up and it's from 2009. But it still looks the same with more dust depending on how lazy I have been.
Edit: I don't seem like it but in March it will be 15 years we have those.
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I was just thinking, I also use a big sub with those so it all takes up alot of space. 3 speakers about 6' wide each, it can only happen because the room is 24' wide.
Now there is a new speaker that could replace all 3 including the sub, it's the new Jubilee. Much smaller footprint and great performance, honestly I was surprised how it sounded when I heard it properly set up, and NO sub needed.
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3 hours ago, 82 Cornwalls said:
So it has a midrange driver on the floor? A woofer in the middle?
I just saw a picture and assumed it was some sort of bass horn, never actually knew what it was and wasn't concerned because I knew I would never want one whatever it is.
I have seen a lot of combinations of mids and woofers, but never MWM.
Nope, no midrange driver it's a 2 way. The part you are seeing is the bass bin, two on each side, the 402 horn is on top. No midrange or tweeter, those two horns cover it all.
Many have not seen the MWM, I would guess for the most part it was a PRO product and not used at home for most normal people anyway. It take alot of room and I can see why most people would not want them, my wife heard them and she is who decided it's what she wanted. They do sound amazing so I thought it was a great idea.
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2 hours ago, nickyboy6100 said:
O.E. baby!! Boy, that brings back some memories.
Sort of but slightly blurry memories, we were not sponsored by a beer distributor but was supporting them on our own. Mixed league and men's league plus a company work league, all included beer.
And to think I do not drink beer anymore, or much of anything, well 90% of the time anyway.
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42 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said:
Fwiw, I enjoy multichannel music and like the way my 2-way speakers blend seamlessly with my subs to make it a 9 channel, 3 way Klipsch sound system.
Really closer to a 4 way
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2 hours ago, 82 Cornwalls said:
The first time I saw it I thought why in the world would anyone want a mid-woofer-mid and that is still what comes to mind first, mid-woofer-mid.
The same reason there is a bass section on any speaker, for bass, it's not a sub. Bass has to go up to where the mids take over, a sub has to go up to where the bass takes over. OK so I like to keep it simple and mid-woofer-mid confuses me, not really almost all speakers are sort of mid bass and a little lower, except the Jubilee.
The only speaker I know of that does not need all of this is the new Jubilee, no sub needed, full range 2 way.
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1 hour ago, Marvel said:
My paternal grandfather drank Schlitz beer, from a can..
Not good but still better than Falstaff, and this is from someone who drank Schaefer at one time. But back then it was like $6-$7 a case which made it easier.
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8 hours ago, grasshopper said:
I remember Falstaff beer. Not in that type of bottle.
I remember it also, they had a brewery in N.O. Nasty, the worst beer I have ever tried.
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4 hours ago, Invidiosulus said:
he pork loin was on there for a few hours until it hit about 135° internal temp.
At that point I pulled it off and wrapped it in parchment and foil and the heat internally rose to about 150°f.Looking good, same here 225, but I always pull it at 135, but then just leave it cool and it's slightly pink and very juicy. Been doing it like that for years and never had a problem, it has the texture of steak not dry at all. Accidently once let it go to about 145 before pulling and it was totally different, white dry and much tougher so I am careful to watch it at the end.
I guess just leaving it cool unwrapped is still somewhat going to have a temp rise before it cools ?
One reason I do pork loin so often is our local store has it when on sale for $149-$179 a pound, cheaper than chicken of even ground beef and to me it's much better. We even get it sliced into pork chops and freeze it like that, normal pork chops with the bone cost over twice as much which is crazy. I am cheap, but love to cook/eat. Will be doing another loin in a couple of days after the leftovers are gone which reminds me I need to defrost it and start marinating it.
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17 hours ago, Invidiosulus said:
I smoked some pork loin
Looks good, one of my favorite things to smoke, I do one every other week. We get some every time in goes on sale, on sale it's cheaper then even ground beef of chicken and much better to me.
I like the way you cooked it, some people overcook it and it gets dry and tough, yours looks good.
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On 10/2/2023 at 2:13 PM, Invidiosulus said:
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Link was removed if it also looks like spam on any next post they will go to spam. There were other post which did not look like spam so he will be watched, they are slick sometimes and try to not look outright like spam..
Thanks, if he post again and it is spam or looks like it let us know.
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Wow very nicely done.
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29 minutes ago, MMurg said:
Being Heritage, they should definitely have names, not letter/number designations. I like the idea of naming them for famous organs. The line of subs can be called Deep Roy Subwoofers. 🙂
I told Roy it would be cool if they could come up with names that PWK would think of, but who knows really.
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1 hour ago, Travis In Austin said:
here might be some stuff that’s close, but all four are patented so technically nothing is going to be precisely in the ball park in terms of design and performance is there?
Well the 1802 and 1502 are also patented and when tuned can go as deep, but you have to realize that even the 1502 is roughly the size of 2 of the largest of the new subs. So your right the previous designs take up MUCH more space which rule them out for most people/rooms so these designs are special with the performance VS size differences.
1 hour ago, Travis In Austin said:I really don’t know, but am guessing based on people who got the 1802 and the limited run of 1502’s, that there isn’t a lot out there in the horn-loaded bass dept, with that footprint.
1502 here and performance yes but at a steep tradeoff of double the size compared to what will come out, so this will be a big deal, anyone can fit one of these 4 new subs.
But room size is no problem so I really love my sub, I but could easily see where many would consider the new designs with a size for any room and still keep the performance.
They will be a big hit and go down as a true Heritage product in years to come.
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2 hours ago, Dave1291 said:
Well that's a fact w/you
Yes it is, I press buttons knowing others worked out the hard parts, and the music plays and I am happy.
2 hours ago, Dave1291 said:When you're ready to relax ya just power up and take a ride w/the bonehead.
It's what I depend on.
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13 hours ago, Flevoman said:
Does size 2 have the same airy and dynamic sonic characteristics as the AL-5?
I can't say not hearing a AL-5. But as far as being clean and extremely low distortion as part of the "airy" I would say these are a good match with no loss in quality. A good match for any Heritage which are known for many really good quality's.
IMO
I did not want to say much with so many here more qualified to speak about what they heard. I only did because I was very impressed.
Technically anyone who heard them can explain better than me, I leave the how to those who know, I prefer to press some buttons and hear great music.
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12 hours ago, Flevoman said:
I would say that an 8-inch woofer might have sonic differences compared to a 15-inch one, more so than a 12-inch would.
Honestly with these designs driver size is not noticeable at all in output or sound, unlike any other subs I have heard. It is all about the cabinet design, Roy talked about how different drivers in size and design made little difference.
The vented horn design was what was causing the tuning more than any other sub. All 4 have different drivers and different ports amounts and placement of the ports. Sounded like it was like designing 4 different subs from the way he explained, same principle with changes for each.
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Please follow this link, it's the latest reports of people listening to these subs.
On 11/14/2023 at 6:24 PM, Chief bonehead said: -
2 hours ago, Dave1291 said:
Nice read and thanks to everyone for the input and thoughts. In today's marketplace it's always nice to see a major player recognize something and creating a "fix" for the problem.
Those serious about their systems will be all over a matching Klipsch sub to go with the rest of the Heritage line or whatever they're running. It keeps that system "clean" with even more matching components for the consumers.
Hats off to the Chief and all of those "out of the box" who helped solve a known problem to many "Klipschheads." Ya hit another one outta the park!
Exactly and after all these years of people asking for a Heritage sub to see some designed and sounding so good is a great thing, this will match the quality of the best of heritage speakers with no lack of sound quality which is a feat in itself.
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On 11/14/2023 at 2:37 AM, Flevoman said:
My heart is drawn to the large version for my AL-5, but my setup will probably only allow the medium one.
I can only hope that the medium + AL-5 will be a good match.
I have no idea, but I will say either the 2 and 3 or 4 size (no names yet) would be enough for about any Heritage speaker unless you normally play at insane levels trying to go deaf but these will help with that also.
On 11/14/2023 at 11:12 AM, Travis In Austin said:So what I want to know is: Is Intermodulation Distortion (IMD) a thing?
Very much so, this was one thing I did not really understand, but it was explained with many other things, explained where it could be understood which was great. I usually do not care about the how things work technically as long as they do so I trust people like Roy and others when I have questions, but this weekend taught me many things about why in a way that's easy to understand in the overall picture.
I use a very capable sub and was VERY impressed with all of these subs, no BS.
One thing I have never noticed before was at one point Roy had the volume so low you could not tell what was even playing as he was talking. But the sub was still loading the room and you could slightly hear the bass but could feel it to the point that If I had known the song I would have known what it was just from the deepest bass notes. I was in the back row but it was the whole room as I was not the only one who noticed it. Made me want to come home and try these test tracts because it was impressive, you normally expect to have a little volume at least to load a room like that.
Hearing the new Heritage Jubes was also a shock for me set up in a proper listening environment. I did not expect that much of an improvement from the originals but it is an amazing improvement and have I have heard the originals for many hours.
Very impressive and also NO need for a sub, again in the teens, real full range speakers.
Both the 4 new subs and the new Jubes were way more than I expected, VERY clean and effortless sounding. I told Roy when these subs get out to customers and people start talking about them after hearing at home it is really going to take off in a hurry.
This is NOT your normal direct radiator sub sound in any way, when you hear music with steady mid sounds in the teens and there are no odd sounds just clean smooth reproductions it stands out quickly. IMO
OK that's enough, I had not planned on saying anything much with all the people who could explain much better then me but I was impressed to the point where I had to say something. Truly impressed, you will hear much more as people get these at home, people wanted good Heritage subs for a long time and it is now going to happen with ease and style.
Good Job Roy impressive
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Great news,.