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  1. UPDATE, ONLY 2 KPT-535/4, 2 kpt-684-sw and 14 KPT-1201 REMAINING as of 6/6/24 Located in Norwalk CA or we can ship via freight for reasonable rates Just picked up a large cinema system which is up for grabs. . Need the space for something else coming so this has changed to OBO, make an offer and get it while you can I have the following: 2 - 2x18 klipsch kpt-684-sw subs $900 each OBO 2 - quad 15 3way KPT-535/4 front channels $6000 for THE PAIR 14 - the KPT-1201 surrounds with brackets $150 each They are in quite good condition for being pulled from a cinema. 1 of the front mains has a couple dings in the front not shown. I can take more pics of that. Something hit it here in the warehouse after the pics. All the speakers are in perfect working order I'm thinking of costomizing by painting the last pair white and adding a woodgrain face. Maybe changing to 2 way and swapping the mid to an AXI2050 like the current jubilee. I think that would be epic. Paint the rear horn brackets brown to match the wood. Act now if you want them. Once I make them more wife friendly, they will be worth double 😉 I am also a Celestion dealer. If you want to swap out the midrange compression drivers for the AXI2050 as is used in the new Jubilee home system, I can do that for an extra $750 per box. They are a $1000 driver normally See many more pics on my FB biz page https://www.facebook.com/SpeakerAddict/posts/pfbid035JagdWeaxXjB1iDz3QdsLb5JuhPVw7RYjYncEsmec19b3t31pCLSvp9Fa6k5BRVUl See many more pics on my FB biz page
  2. (Lots of hyphens in that title...I like it... I bet this topic has your full and undivided attention if you're here reading this.) So let's get into the basic idea: crossing the ideas of Mr. Roy Delgado and Mr. Tom Danley on horn design, namely using a K-402 as the basis of a multiple-entry horn design--like the Unity Horn design of Sound Physics Labs. The Synergy Horn of Mr. Danley is still patented (US8284976), but this design reuses the exact physical design of the Unity horn (US6411718--expired). If you cross the woofers over at the first notch frequency, there is no patent infringement. The K-402-MEH is a cross between the K-402 horn used on Roy's Jubilee (the real secret of the Jubilee, IMO) and the multiple-entry horn design of Tom Danley. So neither of these topics are controlled by legalities except of course the names that may be copyrighted by Klipsch and Danley Sound Labs, so I'll just refer to this new design as my "New Center" design, since I'm currently using it between two 2-way Jubilees as a center loudspeaker. What am I really talking about? Perhaps some pictures will help: The horn itself with drivers attached: So the first question is: why? That's pretty easy: I needed a better center loudspeaker between my Jubilees, but the size of another Jubilee is not possible to accommodate in my room. So I reused the horn profile of the most important horn--the high frequency K-402 horn used in the Jubilee--in a full range loudspeaker design. How can you do that? Isn't the K-402 just a HF horn? Well, the answer is: no, it isn't only a high frequency horn. We'll get to that in more detail as time goes by. Suffice it to say that the K-402 is used, unchanged, in the KPT-305 mid-bass module used by the 4-way behind-the-screen cinema systems. This module goes down to about 200 Hz using only a puny 8" driver that Klipsch provides. So the K-402 horn is good from at least 200 Hz to 20 kHz. I was needing more low end than just 200 Hz, so I decided to try my hand at a multiple entry design that reuses the aperture of the K-402 for both the bass woofers and the apex-mounted 2" compression driver. How does that work? Basically, you take two or more woofers and mount them on the sides of the back of a K-402 horn and provide through holes through the side of the horn at the right places to provide a secondary entry point for the bass frequencies, while the rest of the horn behaves like a K-402 horn with 2" compression driver. Two for one, basically. No Jubilee bass bin is used. Besides the fact that the Jubilee bass bin is exceptionally large, by itself, as a center loudspeaker, it just isn't possible to use the Jubilee bass bin in my case. But I still wanted everything else that I get from my Jubilees on either side, and I want this center loudspeaker to seamlessly integrate in terms of its timbre, coverage angles, and in all other sonic performance areas. In addition I get a few things that I don't get with the Jubilees: 1) point source loudspeaker performance (more on this topic later). [This is a big deal that Danley has been capitalizing on of late. Using separate horns for each way of loudspeaker has interesting issues that few people typically think about.] 2) I avoid the issue of dual-mouth bass bin polars at the crossover frequency that the Jubilee bass bin has. In fact I get the same polars all the way through the crossover region--something that is an issue for the Jubilee (refer to the EASE data for the Jubilee). I get full polar coverage up to and through 600 Hz and above. The Jubilee bass bin has issues starting at 200-300 Hz in this area due to its two bass bin mouths. 3) I don't have any folds in the horn. The advantages of this are many, and have been discussed in detail in the forum threads many times. 4) The cost of the center loudspeaker is about 1/3 of a full-up Jubilee. This isn't a trivial point to consider. It's also much less cost than Danley Synergies. 5) I don't need a corner of the room in the center of my setup to get good bass response, like the corner-located Jubilees need. Danley Synergies also have an issue in this regard (except the SH-96). EDIT (21 March 2019): a more recent measurement at ±1 dB resolution using new PEQs, Danley-style crossover filters, and tri-amped. The compression driver is a BMS4592ND (dual diaphragm) making the K-402-MEH a three-way design. Note the -3 dB frequency on the low end (16.5 Hz): EDIT 7 November 2021: There is a new 2 inch compression driver on the market that makes the job of the woofers easier and produces an even better result--the Celestion Axi2050: More REW measurements, like spectrograms, harmonic distortion, can be found on this page: A discussion of MEH crossover filters (focusing on the Danley SH-50 design): Polar performance is summarized in this plot (normalized curves to the on-axis response, 10-60 degrees off axis from centerline, or otherwise stated...20-120 degrees included angle) (EDIT 25 Oct. 2018: These polar response plots will be updated soon to reflect a more successful crossover filter overlap scheme): EDIT (4 March 2018): A normalized spectrogram of the horizontal polar performance using OmniMic (freeware): The -6 dB point is the blue-green color in this plot. This is spectacular directional performance down to 100 Hz, which is solely due to the dimensions of the K-402 mouth. This is significantly lower than the nominal polar cutoff frequencies for virtually all other horns used in home consumer environments. The effect of having such low frequency directivity available is outstanding in-room performance and ability to couple to the boundaries without polar lobing effects much more effectively than even the Jubilee bass bin. This is outstanding polar directivity performance that I have not seen in any other loudspeaker. 6) All of these advantages will also work even better for those that might want to use this design instead of Jubilees in the corners--except in a package that is about 1/3 the size of a Jubilee--essentially the same volume and form factor as a La Scala II, and about the same weight (190-200 lbs). 7) You can use this loudspeaker in a vertical orientation--like the difference between a regular and vertical Cornwall--without having to change out the internal baffle. The horizontal coverage can then be 60 degrees instead of 100 degrees. Ceiling bounce issues can be controlled at the loudspeaker in this orientation. Etc. Why doesn't Klipsch do that already? Probably because the Jubilee is aimed at the Cinema marketplace, which requires much higher average SPL. Secondary to this have been the patent issues that have more recently been resolved by the expiration of the controlling patent. Why not use a Danley Synergy Horn instead? Well, price for one. And all the Danley products are designed for PA use - even higher SPL than Cinema. This means that the requirements that they have been designed to don't match the needs of the home hi-fi enthusiast, like myself. Additionally, the K-402 horn is a better horn than the Danley dual-flare conical horns, in terms of polar control and coverage angles. The Danley Synergies used at home have been the SH-50 or SH-60 designs, which have about half the horizontal coverage angle that I need in my listening room, and they have insufficient low frequency headroom relative to the modified K-402 with two 15" woofers. You would have to buy two Danley SH-96s to have two stereo loudspeakers, and those units apparently go for $8363(US) each--they have 11 drivers in each cabinet which is neither necessary nor useful for the home hi-fi enthusiast, and those drivers cost real money. This K-402 design is much more "fit for purpose" than any of the current Danley designs. Danley SH-96 Polars: Danley SH-50 polars: Chris
  3. Note (24 April 2021): This thread has been overcome by events (OBE). I do not currently recommend spending much time in this thread (created by myself), as the supply of the loudspeakers found here has been discontinued by Klipsch. I have elected to leave the information in this thread intact for the benefit of those looking to buy used models of the Klipsch Professional version (two-way) for home hi-fi use. The information here may be useful to those individuals, but there are apparently no "new" Jubilees of the version discussed here that are being manufactured by Klipsch, and those holding stock quantities of these loudspeakers have apparently sharply increased their prices of late. This is unfortunate, but as they say, "all good things must pass", seems to apply in this case. Please PM me if you have any questions. _____________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ Some frequently-asked potential buyer questions (FAQs) for the home version Klipsch Jubilee: 1) What is a Jubilee? The Klipsch Jubilee consists of a redesigned dual-mouth ("W" section) bass bin having horn expansion path in one axis (versus both the horizontal and vertical in the original Khorn bass bin), and the K-402 high frequency horn on top that uses a full-range 2" compression driver, thus bringing the Klipschorn design back to its original two-way design of the 1940s and '50s that its inventor wished it to be. The crossover point is nominally 450-500 Hz. As sold by Klipsch, the two-way home version Jubilee was intended to be bi-amped using a DSP crossover, i.e., a "loudspeaker processor", for crossover and EQ balancing--the thin dark gray box on top of preamplifier in the photo below is one DSP crossover that is used with the Klipsch Jubilee. Third party passive crossovers are not supported by Klipsch, although there are passive schematics for the K-69-A compression driver and TAD TD-4002 compression driver (both drivers now discontinued). 2) What's so special about the Jubilee? Why should I consider buying them? The Klipsch Jubilee was originally developed to be the replacement for the Klipschorn (corner horn). Paul Klipsch intended to call it a "Klipschorn II", but its performance so exceeded the expectations of its inventor that the decision was made to call it the "Jubilee" in commemoration of the 50th year of the Klipschorn introduction to the marketplace in the mid-late 1940s. The Klipschorn is the only known loudspeaker to be in continuous production for all of those 50 years. Many that have heard Klipsch Jubilees consider them to be the finest loudspeaker that Klipsch produces. If you hear them, you'll understand why. The advantages of the Jubilee design over the original Klipschorn are: time alignment of the entire loudspeaker, leading to more neutral sounding loudspeakers overall without crossover interference band-induced timbre changes much better directivity vs. frequency of its acoustic output, leading to a huge soundstage image and very smooth sounding performance overall higher efficiency of both the bass bin and hf horn/driver due to the elimination of the passive crossover extremely low reactance load--direct connect to drivers to maximize driver damping much better frequency response flatness using the built-in equalizing filters in the DSP crossover to correct for the controlled directivity K-402 horn/driver and room response variances, especially in the midbass and below frequency bands Some history of the Klipsch Jubilee design, its bass bin, and K-402 horn can also be found here: 3) How much does a Klipsch Jubilee cost? The two-way Jubilees cost somewhat less than new Klipschorns. 4) What product ordering options are available? Klipsch provides a bass bin front panel veneer in a number of veneer choices. The K-691 compression driver (rebranded B&C DE75) is the standard driver bundled with the two-way home version Jubilee. 5) Where can I hear a pair of Jubilees? See the following thread: 6) Where can I buy a Jubilee? The two-way (home hi-fi version) Jubilee can be ordered in the U.S. through @MetropolisLakeOutfitters --a Klipsch dealer. Other dealers can be found through contacting Roy Delgado (roy.delgado@klipsch.com). 7) Does Klipsch provide setup support? If not, where can I get help? Klipsch does not provide setup support for these loudspeakers. Additional help can be obtained through Jubilee owners here on the Klipsch Forum. Free help with getting them dialed-in using DSP crossover can be obtained through @Chris A via email support using Room EQ Wizard (REW) and your chosen DSP crossover. It is recommended that you first consider using a Xilica crossover (XP or XD series) to facilitate the dialing-in tasks, although other DSP crossover types can also be used. It is also recommended that you use a better quality DSP crossover than a miniDSP, Behringer, and the entry-level dbx Driverack. 8 ) What active crossovers are used? What's recommended ? How do I program it? Several types of DSP crossovers have been used with the two-way home version Jubilee, including the older ElectroVoice Dx38 and its successor DC-One, Yamaha SP2060, Ashly Protea, Xilica XP series, and miniDSP 2x4 HD. If buying through MetropolisLakeOutfitters, preloading of Xilica XP processor settings developed by Roy Delgado of Klipsch is an option supported by the dealer. 9) How do I buy a Jubilee if I don't live in the U.S.? What are my options? Contact Roy Delgado (roy.delgado@klipsch.com) to discuss your options for international sales. Note that most Klipsch dealers do not often handle Klipsch Professional products (i.e., cinema). Based on the history of difficulties getting the correct configuration for two-way home hi-fi operation, it is recommended to email Roy Delgado before contacting your local Klipsch dealer if you do not live and ship to the U.S. Chris
  4. Hi all - brand new to this forum, but looking for a little advice. I got into Klipsch a few years back by buying the RF7-II, totally fell in love with the Klipsch sound..... love hifi but also love it loud. Wanted something a little more musical so purchased a pair of the forte iii and couldn’t be happier.....until a couple weeks ago when I decided to build a dedicated audio room. Now that the possibilities are endless, I was thinking a pair of jubilees would be the ultimate. I am planning on a 17’ x 23’ x 10’ and think the jubilees would open up nicely with that space. Does anyone foresee any issues with my current gear or the room size/shape with a new set of jubilee’s? I’ve emailed Cory (thorough EBay) but am still waiting on a response. Thanks in advance! My gear: NAD M10 DAC / streamer Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated amp/preamp Klipsch Forte iii speakers (2) JL Audio E-112 subs Transparent audio (plus level) Speaker wire Interconnects Power cables
  5. I have a pair of K402s for sale. I live in Belgium, Europe. So I guess it will probably be best to have them sold to someone in Europe, as to keep shipping costs to a minimum and avoid customs, TAV, ... The 402s come complete, inc. horns, stands, and 2 pair of drivers: 1) Klipsch K-69-A 2) Radian 950 Be PB, Beryllium diaphragms, 4" voice coil, 2" exit, Neodymium, 8 ohm I bought these drivers new on sep. 17. They were in use for +/- 120hrs, they are actually just broken in. Always used in our living room. Original packaging available, price is €3500 + shipping. Reason for selling = WAF 😭
  6. So I have a set of jbl dual 18" bins that play down into low 20s and up to 1000hz which i currently have paired with jbl 2385a horns. Would a pair of 402 horns on the jbl lowers work goodcor are front radiating woofers not going to work well with the 402?
  7. FOR SALE : *2018* Klipsch's JUBILEE K-691 Compression Driver : Only ONE (1) available ! NEW in BOX ...never used ! Make Note: KPT-402 Horn pictured, NOT included in sale. (Sale Posted Sept.9th,2018)*FREE Shipping, in Continental USA, $250 ( O.B.O.) ! - First come first served ! Email me : Born2Rock@Comcast.net ~Craig LeMay
  8. I am in no way affiliated with this sale ; ...I just saw these go up yesterday (Jan.7th,2019) in NETHERLANDs, ...on the international market : 3-Way JUBILEEs in EUROPE ! (NETHERLANDs) with CROSSOVER, and DSP ! https://www.audio-markt.de/_markt/item.php?id=8781051347 Seller Info : Frank Slopsma 1784PJ Den Helder Netherlands tel.: 0031-223638800 Seller: Frank Slopsma 1784PJ Den Helder Netherlands tel.: 0031-223638800 Here is an invoice to ask the seller questions, if you are seriously interested in that EUROPEAN purchase. https://www.audio-markt.de/_markt/email_request.php?auction_id=8781051347&user_id=55941& *If you have ever wanted a pair of Jubilees in EUROPE , trust me...they are supreme to anything you could ever put in a Home setting , especially at this LOW cost . How do I know...I own a L/C/R JUBILEE setup myself !! ~Happy JUBE 'ing ! Craig
  9. Late updating this, but items have been sold This post hurts the soul a bit. The time has come with me to part with my current system and rebuild. I will add pics tomorrow (ironically my personal computer is at the office). While the prospect of building a new system excites me, parting with some of these is gonna hurt. I put this system together in 2012 while living the single life. Last year, I went and did the unthinkable. I got married! While the wife has been accommodating for awhile, our recent move has soured her forgiving mood on the big toys. I need to downsize (but not too much ). Selling: 2012 Jubilees (Cherry finish) w/ K402 horns: $6500. These come with the original K-69 drivers. Still have original boxes and shipping materials. I purchased these in 2012 from the factory (original owner). The boxes have some wear from 2 moves but the speakers are perfect. TAD TD-4002 drivers: $1500. These REALLY make the 402 horns sing! If purchased together, will part with the Jubs/TAD combo for $7500. The Jubs come in the cherry wood finish and have no blemishes. Also for sale: 2011 LaScala II (Single): $2500. Also in cherry, used as part of JubScala center in my setup. No scratches anywhere. MINT condition. Also ordered from factory. Again box is a little beat up but the unit itself is perfect. K402 Horn w/ K-69 Driver: $500. Used in JubScala center DX38 (qty 2): Each with Roy's recommended settings. One has the jubilee setting for the TADs already programmed, and the other the JubScala setting. ($300 ea) Danley DTS-10 (qty 2): $1000 for the pair. They perform flawlessly, but the cabinets are not pristine. They have been through 2 moves and did not receive the love that the Jubs/LaScala did. Thankfully they're built like tanks. Never dropped. KPT-200 pair: $200 for the pair. Used as surrounds in my system. Located in Seattle. Can deliver a considerable distance (I like road trips and the holidays are coming up), or can arrange shipping with prospective buyers. Pics coming your way tomorrow! Only have a few pics for now. I'll have to go through some older photos.
  10. Hey I was recently looking into some big badass horns from Autotech, and was wondering what I should actually look for.. a lot of those horns only include size measurements and crossover point. Not a lot to go on.. The SEOS-30 horn were recommended to me once as a similar design as the K-402, but is this even? No way to know without some good comparisons. Sizewise it does look to match. But as it had so few info I was looking into some other horns, which had more info (I asked them, and if the info is not included on the site then they dont have them). Question is, what to deduce from the included specs? How much should I be looking at the frequency responses? I know "all compression drivers" and horns need EQ (which I will be applying, with lets say a Xilica), so are the ranges even relevant? And what about the polar maps (only horizontal), what is good? I'm guessing it should be a uniform as possible within the appropriate range (in my case that would be 500-700hz and up). Was hoping to maybe find a polar map of the K-402 as I know it to be excellent, but havent had any succes finding it. And, in your expert opinions, what look like the "ultimate horn" (design) for HiFi in a moderate room ((5x6m/15ftx18ft) with an adjoining room of 8square meter/40sqft). Not super relevant in the question I want to be asking at this moment, but I will be going for the horn that best fits my size requirements (I actually only got one which is it shouldnt exceed 1,5-1,66 ft. in height). Design wise it will be matched with a LaScala bin (or maybe even a stack) and Faital HF200 (or 20AT) and I will also test it with the K55M (+ 2" adapter) and a K77 (or CT120) tweeter in a 3-way (I already have those, so it doesnt hurt trying it right) Hoping to get some good (general) info into horns and what to look for when comparing them! Thanks!
  11. I want some opinions from folks that might have gone down the path... If you had the choice... would you: A: get Jubilees B: get Klipschorns with enclosed backs I think I can guess what the ultimate choice would be, Jubilees. My problem is I don't want an active system right now because of additional complexity and additional equipment needed to implement a new speaker. If the Jubilees had a passive option, the choice would be simple. I can get a pair of FACTORY enclosed backed Klipschorns for a very very good price right now... but it's almost as much as a brand new pair of Jubilees. Lets say the jubilees are $100, I can get these particular Klipschorns for $80... (Jubiless are another 20%) and that is pretty close in price to me. would you save up the additional $20 and get jubilees, or would you take a great great deal on VERY LIMITED factory sealed Klipshorns?
  12. Selling my Dx38 I bought off a forum member. Its in very good condition and has jubilee settings already installed. $300 + shipping. Location: Maine.
  13. Up for sale my Super Modified Behringer DCX2496 Electronic Crossover $1500 free ship in the Conus I used this unit with my Three Way Klipsch Jubilees that I sold here earlier this year. This Behringer is absolutely transparent and as quiet as any of the passive crossover networks that I used with the Jubilees and unbelievably dynamic .The mods were done by EVS Ric Schultz in California. Here is a link with some pictures and info on the unit. http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649379516-behringer-dcx2496-electronic-crossover-evs-ric-scultz-modded-lundahl-transformers-etc-three-way-capa/
  14. I have searched the forum and found many articles on the KHorn and false corners but I am still not sure they can be used with Jubilees. Can the Jubilees use false corners? Would the size of the corner need to be different than that described in "Dope for Hope"? Is anyone using false corners with Jubilees and how is that working? My room is not perfect as my best wall has fieldstone on it with a ledge that sticks out about 15 inches which keeps the bass bins away from the walls. Thoughts?
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  16. Here for sale 2 midrange drivers with horns The drivers are Beyma CP750ND 2 inch The horns are 2 Eliptrac Horn 400 from Fastlane Usable frequency range is 400-18000 Khz and also 2 levitation base in birch plywood (As bonus I can apply veneer if we agree on type) It was used in 2-way system For Jubilee Klipshorn La scala upgrade projects New cost 1600 usd I'll sell it for 1200. If you need more pictures just let me know I sell it because i want to go with low mid sata horn otherwise it is extremely well sounding horn. I can accept reasonable offers too. Condition is mint. (i would say on drivers not more than 500-600 hours of gentile home use) The horns are made of MDF and covered with white primer so you can apply any color you like. For all details please write me at anton.dedikov@gmail.com
  17. anyone build a wood 402 yet? if they did how did it sound?
  18. Hi Forum, Looking for a little bit of advice here.... I have 3- commercial Jubilee base bins, 2 in the front with one in the back and I'm currently using EV DH1A (6ohm) drivers with a JBL 2360A horns on each. I've been using some JBL 3110A crossovers I had laying around and it sounds real good, but at the same time, although I think I have a pretty good ear, I have never had the luxury of listening to a TRUE Jubilee 2 way or 3 way set up, so I don't know what I'm missing. So two questions...... One, does anyone have any suggestions for a better crossover that I can use with my current system? Even if its a schematic that I can build for either a 2 way or 3 way system. Two, does anyone have any Klipsch tops for sale? I assume a K401 or K402 with a KPT-Grand-HF-T? Please give me some direction here so that I can REALLY release the sound that I probably am not hearing;) By the way, I do listen to the system fairly loud, not just on movies, but also with just good ole 70's tunes
  19. Everybody wants dynamics and clarity in their systems. What have you done to get closer to live music? I do not believe i can ever get to the realism of live music, only closer for sure. While giving my daughter away in a marriage ceremony this past week in Queens, I visited a Jazz club in Manhattan. The band played Caribbean Jazz. The female singer was from Port Au Prince and unforunately, the bands name has left me for now. The band was made up of piano, keyboard, trumpet, drums, two saxiphone players and of course the female band leader. I sat about 20 feet back centered to the band. An excellant location for listening. Also, behind the band was about a 150 foot glass wall where the NYC landscape could be observed while dusk turned to night. Any poster you have seen does not do justice to this view. The sound was real and the dynamics were amazing. While the music ranged from interesting to pretty good to most outstanding, I realized I was getting my ears retuned to what live sound actually sounds like. I am looking for ideas. I'm usually slow to change equipment because you do not always get the changes you expect when doing so. Plus the ole "Your Mileage May Vary" is so true. Hence my question to the listening music lovers of the Klipsch Forum. Presently, my 2 Channel system is fundamentally outstranding (my opinion). I run a turntable (with phono preamp) or a CD player through an Intact Audio volume control transformer (passive setup) which takes care of the clarity aspect. Followed by the signal being fed to EV DX38 and on to two Crown D75A amplifers and then to my Jubilee speakers with Faital drivers in the upper horns. Turning up the volume and removing amplifier gain limitations of the amps I believe has helped bring the realism closer, but it is not what I heard at the club. So, what do you think? Thanks
  20. Hi all, i hope somebody can help me: There are so many great project about a D.I.Y. Jubilees in the forum but there are no exact plans or drawings about it. Has somebody the construction plans beside this: https://community.klipsch.com/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-15544-13819281322248.gif Thank you, die_Nase
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