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So I have a combo living, dining, kitchen, open complex "listening room" that is approximately 10,000 cubic feet with several hallways and large windows. Currently am using a custom dual 15" sub powered by crown amp up front and center, with a small monoprice 12" cheapo sub behind the couch for the impact feel during movies. The Belle Klipsches are taking up too much space in the cubbies. Not the best setup but whatever I'm all about the journey. Anyways I am looking to get new AVR with dual sub eq (Marantz SR7012) current is SR6007 and its starting to die. I am looking at swapping out my most of my gear and am thinking Forte III for front speaker duties which allows me to put a subwoofer in either cubbie next to the speakers. I'd like to keep each subwoofer at under $1,000 and the other contraint is a cab that is less than 24" deep with grill on. I've done DIY subwoofers and not interested in doing that anymore so I have narrowed it down to the following... Monoprice Monolith 12" - $799 HSU VTF-3 MK5 HP - $799 Outlaw Ultra-x12 - $659 I HAVE to feel the bass in movies and music. Currently when I play the opening scene from Edge of Tomorrow I can feel the pressure change in the room and hear the large windows in the room flex (which is good) but I'm lacking the chest thump for music and gunshots in movies. Will I be able to achieve this in a 10,000 cubic foot room with only the two of the subwoofers listed??? Placing is limited to being next to the mains in the cubby... Thoughts? Opinions? Looking for sub "experts" that might be able to shed some light on things. I've tried REW and minidsp but I'm to impatient and stupid to get it to work right so no go on that. Looking for a simple solution of someone elses hard work developing a good sub that I can use :)