Crossman Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I noticed that the "aniversary" edition of the Khorns have a closed back. Would closing the back of older Khorns create enough fake wall to reproduce the intended bass without jamming them into a corner? Crossman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSport Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 IndyKlipschFan did this to his and reported an improvement...do a search as it is a very long thread...with pics...good luck! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmi Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Some say that you don't need corners after doing this, some say you do. My experience in my room is that they sound better in the corner than out. But it may just be my room. I don't think you can lose by doing this mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Do a search on the forum using 'Fals Corners." This issue has been beat to death in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbakedq Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 This is what I did: http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/109982/1108625.aspx#1108625 Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowntnbkr Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I did this to mine when I had them, and to me the bass was diminished. I was also told afterwards that you still need the false corner for proper wave propogation, I don't know if taht is correct or not, but I do know that when I just sealed them, the bass was lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossman Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 I did this to mine when I had them, and to me the bass was diminished. I was also told afterwards that you still need the false corner for proper wave propogation, I don't know if taht is correct or not, but I do know that when I just sealed them, the bass was lacking I will have to agree with you. I devised a temporary enclosure and they sounded better from the back than the front. I am currently in the process of making one false corner (I have one natural corner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbakedq Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 To be clear I have good corners. My problem is that because of the wainscoating I can not get a good seal with pipe foam. I did use memory foam, and that did work, but the backs are better and it is easier to move them around. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 To be clear I have good corners. My problem is that because of the wainscoating I can not get a good seal with pipe foam Bring out the Sawzall.... [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 OK, there is no way if you enclose the backs properly with no air leaking and have braces, just to make for sure the bass comes out through the sides would it be less... That is BS! Sorry, but true..You must have done it wrong! Forgotten the top or bottom areas or not sealed at all. Yes, you still need a corner.. By no means does this mean you can now put them 3 feet out into your room. BUT, and this is the advantage... You can have them close to the walls, within say 6 inches or less, and tilt them perhaps a little and NOT, I repete NOT, have to have them snug in the corners. It makes 100% sense for klipsch to do this for rooms with chair rails or fancy modlings that would require the removal of it before placing them in corners. If you go back in the history Paul W Klipsch, did this as well at one time. My guess is the added weight of the wood and not everyone needed it, they cut it out of production. Personally, I would do this everytime if availiable from the factory, it really makes the bass come out into the room. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossman Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 OK, there is no way if you enclose the backs properly with no air leaking and have braces, just to make for sure the bass comes out through the sides would it be less... That is BS! Sorry, but true..You must have done it wrong! Forgotten the top or bottom areas or not sealed at all. Yes, you still need a corner.. By no means does this mean you can now put them 3 feet out into your room. Are you saying that inclosing the backs is an improvement even if they are put in corners or have false walls? (NOTE: I'm only asking because I am interested in getting the best sound that is possible for my situation)Crossman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 YES. Sorry I seemed so 100% sure of myself before, but I know 100% I am right here. And it is obvious why, Your making sure the seals are as if the speakers are coupled to the wall itself. Put the speakers back into place in a corner, and your good to go. Also, if your building, make sure your walls are pretty solid too. You do not want the drywall to flex.... Extra 2x4's help 4 feet out both directions for maximum bonus points! LOL For the people with cinder blocks you do not know how easy you have it! Last, but not least, DO NOT build a attached to the wall bookcase between K horns.. The only real mistake I made in my house..and a HUGE mistake with K horns. Least I can admit I goof up too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossman Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Allow me to re-ask the question - Do you recommend enclosing the backs of the Khorns whether they are in real corners / false corners / otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes. Is that, your final answer? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Thank you, Coytee! Yes, your right... YES!, Is my final answer..... (As the music builds into temptation to the result Just in time for the commercials! hehehehehe.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE36 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/296458/False%20Corner1.gif Yes and Indy is correct Accoding to the Dope From Hope. I think Colter posted a cleaner copy. But you need 4 feet to complete horn, sealing the cabinets eleminates the need to seal tight to a wall but does not eliminate the need for a corner. I have seen pictures of 8 - 13 feet worth of horn built into floors to get down to 10Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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