seti Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I have been chatting with IBSlammin about these ElectroVoice speakers. Other than cabinets what is the difference between them? Which one had an 18inch driver? To my surprise....AN 18 INCH WOOFER!!!!! Any info would be much appreciated on the time period when Klipsch licensed to Brociner, Vitovox, and Electro Voice. Thanks Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Thump Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 http://homepage.mac.com/ikecarumba/PhotoAlbum13.html Hi Seti, The Georgian is similar to a Klipschorn with an EV 18wk driver. The Patrician is a four way design with a 30" 30W woofer. Attached is the data sheet. I couldn't find an EDS for the Georgian but I will keep looking. Both are pretty cool speakers. Patrician%20800%20EDS.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Thump Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/105706/1067589.aspx#1067589 Here is a better thread which shows the plans for a Georgian. Lots of good info on our website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 http://homepage.mac.com/ikecarumba/PhotoAlbum13.html Hi Seti, The Georgian is similar to a Klipschorn with an EV 18wk driver. The Patrician is a four way design with a 30" 30W woofer. Attached is the data sheet. I couldn't find an EDS for the Georgian but I will keep looking. Both are pretty cool speakers. Is that a typo??? 30inch woofer?????? jebus Thanks Prof! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 . Patrician IV Assembly.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 / Patrician IV Part 1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 ' Patrician IV Part 2-1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 ] Patrician IV Part 2-2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Speakerfritz, thanks so much for the files very cooool........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 If I may respectfully disagee with the good Professor Thump. Smile. The literature shows that the Georgian uses a 15 inch driver. It also shows the Patrician uses an 18 inch woofer. Both these drivers were made by EV with the K suffix, as described. In my guess, these had a more floppy suspension to keep the resonance freq low.. I have not seen a bass horn using EV's 30 inch driver. But perhaps it was done. Wm McD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 There were a lot of models of the Patrician. The 30 inch woofer model was thePatrician 800. Patrician 800 EDS.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Whoops. This just shows that I should Google before I type. Mea Culpa. . . . I'm saying that a lot these days. I thought the IV was the last of the line. Egg on my face. Wm McD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 There were a lot of models of the Patrician. The 30 inch woofer model was thePatrician 800. It's been a lot of years since I was there, but if I remember correctly there's a pristine example in the lobby of Telex corporate headquarters in Burnsville, MN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfandbark Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 There were a pair of 30" refurbished EV woofers on ebay a couple weeks ago. Went for $3374.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVGuy Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 There were a few different versions of the Patrician. The Patrician IV used an 18" woofer (18WK) under 200 cps, two mid-bass horn drivers mounted on long plastic type tubes for 200 - 600 cps, a T25A mid-range driver with a 6HD horn for 600-3500 cps and a T35 or T350 High-Frequeny driver for above 3500 cps. I have one of these. The Patrician 700 used the 30" woofer (30W), a 12" SP12D mid-bass speaker, a T250 mid-range driver with 8hd horn and a T350 tweeter. I think the Patrician 800 was the same or almost. The Georgian used a 15" woofer (15WK), a large PA type horn for the mids with the same mid-bass driver and long plastic tube used in the Patrician IV and a T35 tweeter. I have two of these. The Georgian bass bin was identical to the Klipschorn bass bin, in fact the early Khorns used the same EV 15WK driver. The only thing similar between the Georgian and the Patrician IV was the bass bin with the Pat IV being 16% larger. They also shared the same high frequency tweeter, the T35 or T350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Speakerfritz, Thanks again for the docs they are amazing. There were a few different versions of the Patrician. The Patrician IV used an 18" woofer (18WK) under 200 cps, two mid-bass horn drivers mounted on long plastic type tubes for 200 - 600 cps, a T25A mid-range driver with a 6HD horn for 600-3500 cps and a T35 or T350 High-Frequeny driver for above 3500 cps. I have one of these. The Patrician 700 used the 30" woofer (30W), a 12" SP12D mid-bass speaker, a T250 mid-range driver with 8hd horn and a T350 tweeter. I think the Patrician 800 was the same or almost. The Georgian used a 15" woofer (15WK), a large PA type horn for the mids with the same mid-bass driver and long plastic tube used in the Patrician IV and a T35 tweeter. I have two of these. The Georgian bass bin was identical to the Klipschorn bass bin, in fact the early Khorns used the same EV 15WK driver. The only thing similar between the Georgian and the Patrician IV was the bass bin with the Pat IV being 16% larger. They also shared the same high frequency tweeter, the T35 or T350. Thanks for the clarification. I'd love to hear a PAT IV!!!!!!!! WOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 "I'd love to hear a PAT IV!!!!!!!! WOW. " You should if you can swing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 i know of about 5 30ws here in omaha, ne which i believe are reconed, etc.. the guy told me 3500 is ebay prices hed let them go for about 1000 a piece. I only trust him casue ive baught good quality speakers from him in the past. Also ive seen 2 of them, plus hes a ev dealer. if i remeber right the ones with a the 30 incher was a 4 speaker system but its been awhile since ive read up on them. Im sure somewere here allready stated that. nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVGuy Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Here's a few pics of the drivers in the Patrician IV. I use the Crites CT125 tweeter and a University SAHF for the mid-range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 How's things in Earlville? I'm still enjoying the LS! Nothing but compliments when folks hear them. Getting the AL crossovers changed out helped a lot, though. Those EVs would be wonderful! Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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