Arky Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Concerts and Movies and only on a (very small) handful of stuff does it sound bright I didn't particularly think they were bright either. I had Dean do mine immediately for the improved clarity; i'm a midrange guy. Suppose that's why I have heritage now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcilwaine287 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Klipsch are known for being bright. normally w/ HK's they are pretty nice. Very treble high speakers... sorry. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have also found the right ingredients to feed my RF-7's. Detail and clarity without earbleed at 100db+ volumes. I would still like to get Dean's upgrade though......hoping that it can help with the heavy stuff. I've owned my 7's for a few years now.....so I could just be used to them. [*-)] "Someone answer that damn phone". [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montigue231 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 By the way, I should also point out that at lower volumes, the sound is fine for music. It's at the higher volumes where the harshness and brightness becomes an issue. your exactly right. While the horns are very clear for home theater , at higher volumes they get really harsh with music. Thats why I ended up going with the CF 2 Epics. The louder these speakers get the better they sound. Smooth, never bright..With incredible bass. I can push my denon to the limit and these epics absorb the juice without any strain wat so ever, no harshness at all. The KLF 20's I had sounded incredible but when I wanted to crank them up it wasnt comfortable sitting in front of them. A little too directional..like sound lazerbeams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 your exactly right. While the horns are very clear for home theater , at higher volumes they get really harsh with music. ... The KLF 20's I had sounded incredible but when I wanted to crank them up it wasnt comfortable sitting in front of them. . I own both the RF-7s and KLF-20s and am curious what you consider "higher volume?" Fwiw, I did notice mine were bright when I drove them with a lower-end AVR, in a large room, at SPLs that I was accustomed (i.e., 85 dB or so) but don't feel that way with my current AVRs. Did you think your KLF-20s sounded bright with your Denon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montigue231 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 your exactly right. While the horns are very clear for home theater , at higher volumes they get really harsh with music. ... The KLF 20's I had sounded incredible but when I wanted to crank them up it wasnt comfortable sitting in front of them. . I own both the RF-7s and KLF-20s and am curious what you consider "higher volume?" Fwiw, I did notice mine were bright when I drove them with a lower-end AVR, in a large room, at SPLs that I was accustomed (i.e., 85 dB or so) but don't feel that way with my current AVRs. Did you think your KLF-20s sounded bright with your Denon? I Had my Denon 3805 matched with the KLF's. I have to say they were one of the best sounding speakers I ever had. Although at high levels the horns sound bright to me. Also I noticed if i heard them at high levels for a period of time it wasnt satisfiying, but unpleasant. At normal levels they sound fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I Had my Denon 3805 matched with the KLF's. I have to say they were one of the best sounding speakers I ever had. Although at high levels the horns sound bright to me. Also I noticed if i heard them at high levels for a period of time it wasnt satisfiying, but unpleasant. At normal levels they sound fantastic I really think what you are describing is that your Denon AVR 3805 delivered enough current to drive your KLF 20s at what you considered "normal" but didn't have enough power to drive them at a higher volume. Fwiw, that is why people purchase Separate amplification to provide more current to drive these speakers more efficiently at higher volumes, without them becoming shrill or bright. Fwiw, I drive my KLF-20 HT in a 1800 sq ft room with a Denon AVR 3803 at around 80 dB, but the peaks aren't as dramatic as in my smaller HT nor do I play it as loud as my HT listed below. Btw, do you own a Sound Level Meter so you can tell what the actual SPL is at your LP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montigue231 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 tdkamerica, Im sure your right, its probably lack of power once I go over the receivers sweet spot. I used to feel fatigued after listening to them too loud. I dont have a sound meter I was told they sell them cheap at radio shack. I just never bought one I know Klipsch always advertises there speakers can run on almost any amplifier. But the facts are most of the big beasty floor speakers need lots of juice to sound good Dont get me wrong..im a klipsch fan for life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 need lots of juice to sound goodThis is mostly true.......but not entirely. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Solution. Get a quality amp. Crank it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Solution. Get a quality amp. Crank it. Top Notch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardP Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Before you changes capacitors, crossovers, cables, amplifiers, CD players, etc., to correct an overly bright speaker, I might suggest that you turn down the treble/high freq tone control a notch or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 There is a soft dome tweeter in your future. You might prefer the "New England" sound of Advent or Boston Acoustic and you know what? That is OK, cause people like you, you like you and you should be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatnoop Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 pls send your used klipsch speakers to arkansas, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skonopa Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Solution. Get a quality amp. Crank it. Thats what I did! Amazing how those RF-7s sounded once I gave them a good solid kick in the *** with that B&K amp! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdogdan2 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Can someone give me the link to the information on adding a resistor for crossover? I have no idea how this is done, a tutorial would be great. Also is there a good resistor to use? Link too? I have the WF-35 and XL-23 Thanks, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The resistor mod is for the RF-7's (and RC-7) only to the best of my knowledge. Welcome to the forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InVeNtOr Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Dan, there isn't a link per say, but you can ask DeanG for advice or help, it's his mod. the resistors you use are Mills and they are at Partsexpress.com. dean adds an extra 10olm resister but i am unsure at which physical location it goes. just noticed your speakers, i don't know if adding the resistor will do what you want it to. it's a totally different crossover. you can however get the diagram from klipsch (support) and replace the tweeter caps. if you are set on doing the mod, thats what i would only suggest doing. good luck with the mod. btw if you want just a bit better result, get some silver solder (4%) and redo all the solder points with that. dean also does that when he does the mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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