thecutter Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I have the RF-63, RC-64 RS-62 and RT-12d. I have an Integra 9.9 and Emotiva XPA5 and. XPA2. The RT-12d is anemic. It is ok for music but lacks in HT. I want a new sub. SVS pb-13 Ultra vs JL audio F113. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I purchased a velodyne 15" that I thought was the cat's meow, until I purchased a new SUNFIRE Signature series. The sunfire is considerably smaller, but man oh man she can shake the house in the HTS. The 2 together are incredible. If I had to do it all over again, I'd go straight to the sunfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Hawk Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 At least take a peak at the seaton sound submersive. I've read about people upgrading from both subs your considering to it, but never of anyone going the other way =) Here's one review: http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/post?id=3449688 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=759877 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I was also considering the PB13-Ultra and the f113 until I read about the SubMersive. I have one on order right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peshewah Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Kain, when you get that new sub I would like to see a picture of it when you find time. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Kain, when you get that new sub I would like to see a picture of it when you find time. Thanks I'm in the shipping week so it should be shipping any day now. I'm not sure how long it will take to get here once it's shipped but don't worry, I'll be posting a review and pictures once I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 If you found the RT-12D "anemic", something was not right with your setup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecutter Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 I set the Integra to have the followng crossovers: Fronts 60HZ Center 80HZ Surrounds 80HZ LPF off on the sub High pass on Receiver 80HZ I set the sub volume with receiver +3 over volume match of other speakers. Occsionally I turn up volume on sub +3-6 db . I think I can hear the PR flapping durin intense bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 It could be a placement issue. Try a different placement and see if it makes any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Trey Cannon Posted August 6, 2009 Klipsch Employees Share Posted August 6, 2009 Run the room tune on the sub. It will help level out things. If the PR is making noise, contact your dealer there may be a issue with it... Our tecsupport can help as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Are you sure it's not the drywall flapping and items in the room making noise? I have to say that the RT-12D is NOT anemic in any way, shape or form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etc6849 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 If you were willing to sell the RT-12d, how much would you be asking? I really like mine. I understand people's tastes are different, but the RT-12d blows away any sub I've heard in person at the big chain stores and even most audiophile shops in my area. If you don't like the RT-12d, I would not buy another sub unless it is local and you can try it out in your home. I live near Chicago and like I said, the RT-12d was the best sub I could find within a reasonable driving distance. It sounds like you have checked the settings though, so I'd be interested in knowing what gives. I have almost the same set up, but I use an Onkyo 905 (same as the Integra 9.8) with no external amp. I use 83's for the mains, RS-62's for rears and have an RC-64 center. I'm not home now, but I remember most of my settings: I use audyssey to set up the level and distances only, then I always turn off the EQ when I'm done calibrated as I think it sounds much better without it on for horn speakers. RF-83's cutoff at 80Hz and bi-amped (I think your Integra can do this). It makes a lot of sense to cut off speakers at higher than 60Hz unless you have a huge amp. This frees up a lot of power and means your amp has more reserve power for dynamic loads (ie scenes where your speakers are moving in/out really fast). RC-64 cutoff at 80Hz. RS-62s: 100Hz cutoff. RT-12d: Room correction on. Low Pass filter set to LFE (this turns off the subs low pass filter perhaps this is your issue?). Phase angle ~20 degrees (use online calculators to calculate this for you though). DSP is turned to Flat. Sub volume is ~10dB (if you change this, you may want to recalibrate levels using audyssey). I placed the RT-12d in a corner about 1 foot from the walls. My room is about 20x18 feet. Honestly, your setup should sound really nice, I have to think something is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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