apostolos Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Any advice on speaker cable to be used with palladium p38 f and integrated amp e450 of accuphase.at the moment i am using a mogami cable (3404) but not satisfied.music sounding somewhat hard and causing tiring to the ears after some period of listening.anyway i think that all that magic of hi end gear is sometimes missing from my system.as source dp500 cdplayer of accuphase as well is used.power cables are used the ones provided by accuphase gear and no power filter used.any suggestions acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoreck Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Turn the volume down a touch, you might be listening to loud if it is tiring you out and your get ringing in your ears after a period of time. Maybe you just don't realise how loud you have it playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I use Mogami interconects (quad mic wire) an have had great results. They make nice speaker wire too. Your speakers should sound good with that cable. A cable change will probably not make very much difference and is mostly a shot in the dark anyway. I don't know much about Acupase gear, but the Palladiums probably need a "soft" sounding front end. I have had great success using Musical Fidelity preamps and Classe power amps. Nice warm sound that is never fatigue-ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolos Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 thanks for replying .wishes for happy new year from athens greece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvan Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 It's difficult to imagine a much better pairing than the Palladiums and those Accuphase pieces. Sorry, I don't know what to suggest. Congratulations on a wonderful system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvan Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 We would be very happy to see photos of your system if you'll indulge us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I would contact our own MaxG in Athens and get him to go to your place for a listen. He's very knowledgeable about Klipsch, and is a member of the local hi-fi society so there are plenty of good ears and good advice available to you right in Athens. If you really think it is the cables, then I would seriously suggest just some regular 16 or 14 gauge speaker wire. IMO, anything else is just plain overpriced nonsense. If it's fatigue, it's probably do to volume or your just not liking horn loaded speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'd like to see some photo too. Palladiums are rare around here. Always like to see what they look like. Thebes, Mogami is very sensible wire. Check out their website. About $1 or so per foot in bulk and used in pro installations. Very high quality, heavy duty and not very expensive at all. Their really heavy speaker wire is about $2.25 per foot and you can drive a truck over it. I like to buy from these guys in Salt Lake: http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/browse_brand.cgi?brand=137 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I spent a whole afternoon listening to classical DVDs on a P37 or P38 5.1 system driven by Aragon electronics at Klipsch HQ in Indy, and thought they were very accurate and non-fatiguing. I wonder about a break-in thing: how many hours do you have on your speaks, electronics, interconnects and speaker wire? If some or all of these are still new, does it sound like things are still getting better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 What I have here for you is the ultimate speaker cable. Its TRUE. These cables will produce the most dramatic improvement inyour system, more than any single thing will, guaranteed! I made these cablesby stringing together southern north pole magnetically petrified hardwood ballsof various sizes using tightly rolled up BLACK electrical tape. The entirecable structure is completely suspended in Strawberry Banana Jello puddingwhich also provides the shielding. I used common straight pins at both ends forgrounding. The cables are terminated using invisible gas filled (methane)highly polished uranium rods. Maximum performance can be obtained from thesecables by suspending them precisely 0.003 meters from the ceiling or wallsurfaces (not the floor). For those of you not so inclined to take on a projectof this magnitude I can make these for you in any length up to 17” for$1,000,000,000.00 each (US).Additional lengths cost $1 per foot up to 5,280 feet. Or perhaps you would prefer to do what Peter Walker of Quaddid when he realized they didn’t pack the speaker cables for the show. He wentto Home Depot and got some of that orange stuff. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelA Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Artto, you stole my patent on those cables and you'll be hearing from my lawyer. You shouldnt joke about these cables, they ARE the real deal. The price you qouted doesnt justify the qaulity and comes in at a fraction of the cost of materials. [] Sorry I'm in the camp that cables dont make a difference as long as they pass a signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 OK, I'm the odd man. Cables can transform your system. I'm not an expert on Mogami cable but it looks like stranded coaxial? Anyway, I find most stranded cable a bit bright. I'd try some Audioquest Type4 for the speaker run and some Kimber PBJ or Timbre for interconnects. This stuff is not to expensive and should work for you if you are finding the system hard and strident. Thanx, Russ 90% of the guys on THIS forum like lamp cord, I don't know why but I think they like the bite of horn systems and zip cord will certainly do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted January 7, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2010 90% of the guys on THIS forum like lamp cord, I don't know why but I think they like the bite of horn systems and zip cord will certainly do that. Cheap also comes to mind [] but PWK used lamp cord, BUT you also have to realize what was available 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invidiosulus Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I throw up in my mouth a little every time I see mso-style on a webpage. -Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolos Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 thank you all in advance.i am new in the klipsch community and glad to find such correspondence.i got to find and i am using at the moment acrolink power cables for the source and amplifier as well as power filter magic blacknoise 1000.great difference in sound,more close to reality and more natural.such change differentiate the quality of power distribution?soon i am preparing some photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seadog Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Are you using any acoustic treatment materials in your room? That's where I would spend my money first to solve the "tiring to the ears" problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennie Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Are you using any acoustic treatment materials in your room? That's where I would spend my money first to solve the "tiring to the ears" problem. Good one Seadog! That is exactly what I was thinking. If the room is not treated, you've got sound bouncing around and that can be fatiguing to your ears! Dennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Ya' know ... sometimes there can be simple cable incompatibilities that can make a particular wire sound tinkly and irritating in one system but OK in another. Therefore, it's not a bad idea IMO to try basic wire for a while to see how it deals with your issue. HOWEVER, you should always let new wire break in until it stops improving (or changing). So don't form quick opinions in this area. I'd give it a minimum of 40 hrs. AND, if you are switching back to wire that's well broken in, you STILL have to let it settle back in after moving it around! 5-10 hrs. probably would do it. "Forgiving" wire IME has included Audioquest -- I haven't heard many other brands outside of Siltec (silver). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 As a P-38 owner (one week!) I am wondering which speaker wire you are using now? Maybe you can advise me somehow with the Pal's? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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