merkin Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I reveneered my belles and when I took them apart they had two different k33's. One had a square magnet and the other had a round which I thought was weird. Then whn I looked in the dog house of the one i saw this. Looks like they had been real close to burning down everything. I chiseled out the burnt areas and putted in the gap. Lucky it wasn't where the woofer seated against the dog house slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Holy moly! Are you the original owner? Ever smell anything burning and couldn't figure out from where? That's pretty scary. I'm guessing whoever replaced that woofer did so because the original went up in flames!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkin Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Here is what the belle's look after the veneer. They now match my forte ii's and quartets I use for surrounds. Also the walnut was all cat scratched up before I began. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkin Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 No I'm not the original owner. I don't think the guy I bought them from was either. I got them off craigslist from a NON forum member. He never mentioned anything about the woofer being replaced. I don't know if he knew it had. I never asked if there had been a fire in them though. I'm wondering how that it happened. Is that from running too many watts to an efficient speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Is that from running too many watts to an efficient speaker. Too many watts into any speaker. The voice coil overheats and can stick. It can all go downhill from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnwilly Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Wow ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Have you noticed any difference in sound from the unmatched woofers ? By the way, very nice looking speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkin Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 no I didn't notice any difference in the sound between the two speakers. After the veneering I put Bob Crites cast Woofers in though. The others were both K33's just square magnet verses round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 After the woofers are broken in post your thoughts about Bob's cast frame woofers if you don't mind, another opinion is always welcome. I too have been thinking about starting some veneer jobs around the house just for some practice so when the need to veneer a nice set of speakers it won't be too fugly looking. Where did you end up getting your sheet stock ? When i was looking around the price varied so much it was hard to make an educated decision on what to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firesign Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Sorry ya got burned on the purchase man - but very glad it didn't turn out worse. I once found a ringing in mine, but after I took out the little metal dangly thingy out of the belle it stopped. [] Didn't do near the damage yours did or might have done. And mega grats on the veneer rehab - you did beautiful work there.... By the way, any relation to Hieronymus Merkin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkin Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 After the woofers are broken in post your thoughts about Bob's cast frame woofers if you don't mind, another opinion is always welcome. I too have been thinking about starting some veneer jobs around the house just for some practice so when the need to veneer a nice set of speakers it won't be too fugly looking. Where did you end up getting your sheet stock ? When i was looking around the price varied so much it was hard to make an educated decision on what to buy. I used Oakwood Veneer company for my veneer. Prices were good and they had fast shipping. This was my first attempt at veneering. I did one piece of scrap then I started on the edge banding. Looking back I did some faux pas but luckly they aren't that visible. I just followed the directions on Joewoodworker.com The iron on method is very forgiving. I did buy an extra sheet of veneer just in case I really screwed up. That is one thing about wood working is that if you mess up you can usually go buy more wood. It did take a lot longer than I thought it would. It takes a lot of time to plan out how you are to cut the pieces out of the veneer so that the grain goes well with the speaker. I got that done for the front, top and lower sides. The upper sides I could have planned better and had the grain continue from the lower . I thought I had but I laid it out on the wrong edge. It still looks presentable but not perfect. That is why Greg makes his money for restorations, they are a lot of work planning and tedious work applying. The cast frame woofers I'm still out on. Haven't listened much yet. I put them in so I would have matched woofers in each speaker and they really aren't that expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkin Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 By the way, any relation to Hieronymus Merkin? I wasn't even aware of that movie. I actually got the name from my wifes profession. OB/gyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firesign Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I've always wondered how they were attached "down under" - Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa883 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Free Wheelin Franklin, gotta love it. Back in my 12v car audio days I actually made a driver over extend so far that it would not return down into the magnet. It tore the spider and the voice coil sat to the side, what a sight to see and it wasn't from plugging it into 120v either, just raw USA 12v car audio amplifier power.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 could be a former owner ran them with son of ampzilla I think DeanG ignited a pair of speakers like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapZark Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I bought a pair of LSs with blown out woofs. The previous owner said some guys hooked a bunch of musical power amps to them and blew them to smitherines. There wasn't a single torch mark on tthe cabs (except where someone left a cigarette). I can't imagine the amount of power that went in there and torched the speaker. It's kind of cool though, like a badge of honor. I'm just glad no one got hurt and the box is unscathed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deafbykhorns Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Probably a Phase Linear gone DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Leavoy Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 What the hell is the burning caused from? Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 What the hell is the burning caused from? Jody Most likely, the voice coil overheated/smoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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