lotriwer Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 How will these two compare? I know it is hard to describe the sound, but really would like to know if they are similar or are completely different animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Both very effecient but I have always preferred the Khorn. Listen to both if you can. If you have a room with too good corners I'd go Klipschorns. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotriwer Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 How would you describe the difference? I own a pair of Cornscalas, but never heard Khorn's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 How would you describe the difference? I own a pair of Cornscalas, but never heard Khorn's... The difference between a wave of LF rolling across the floor and a LF boot in the chest.[8-|] Very different bass. Kind of depends on what you like IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Good answer IB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 How would you describe the difference? I own a pair of Cornscalas, but never heard Khorn's... The Khorn, when properly sealed in the corners, will produce a bass that fills the room....giving you the impression that the bass is all around you. The Cornscalas is more of a conventional sound that comes at you and smacks you in the chest. I recently abandoned my Khorns and am happily living with JC's DBB.....getting chest slamming bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 ... as opposed to the bass being so powerful that it simply sucks the air out of your chest! [Y] [H] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 How would you describe the difference? I own a pair of Cornscalas, but never heard Khorn's... The Khorn, when properly sealed in the corners, will produce a bass that fills the room....giving you the impression that the bass is all around you. The Cornscalas is more of a conventional sound that comes at you and smacks you in the chest. I recently abandoned my Khorns and am happily living with JC's DBB.....getting chest slamming bass. Yea baby. Works for me![Y][Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 ... as opposed to the bass being so powerful that it simply sucks the air out of your chest! I must admit that the dbb's take my breath away at volume. They really pressure the room. Rudy and I often fail to mention that we use some pretty serious room treatments with the dbb's. They minimize the inherent reflex LF boom, bloom and flop. tc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I never tried the DBB without the heavy bass absorbers in the corners so can't comment on that issue. But, I do know that at volume the DBB cranks the bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 They load the room differently. IMO, the Khorns have a "bigger sound" and is my preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Here's my take on my Klipshorn's and Super Cornwall: They are more alike than different, both Klipsch sound, but with slightly different sounds. Bass: Surprisingly bass wasn't as different as I thought they would be, the super cornwalls give the same huge accurate bass but a little more hard hitting in your face since it's more cetner focused. The Klipshorn's bass is coming from the sides to center. I like they way the center focused bass gives a more crisper, cleaner, detailed, and slightly tighter bass than the encased sound of the Klipshorn's bass. I have great corners for my Klipschorn's that produces a large and deep bass, setting up the super cornwalls in the corner gives the same large deep bass but stronger center focused. I prefer the super cornwall bass. Both do bass very well. The midrange on the super cornwall is a wider sounding horn, more even through-out, comparing the two makes the Klipschorn's midrange sound a little pinched down but still sounds smooth. I like both. The tweeter on the Klipschorn is a little more pronounced. I can hear the difference. The Klipshorn tweeter makes itself more known, little more sparkingly and brassy at times. I like it. The tweeter on the super cornwall is the APT-200 and it's very pleasant sounding, just gets out of the way and does things seemless, doesn't bring attention to itself the same way, sounds more natural. I still haven't been able to decide which tweeter I like better between the two! I really like them both. I wish I could bring the APT-200 up some more like the Klipschorn tweeter! Both my Klipschorn and Super Cornwall's give the same big sound, just slightly different, they are the same animal. I've thought about selling my Klipshorn's since I listen to the Super Cornwall mostly, and if I had to decide between the two, I would definetly keep the Super Cornwalls. I have the room for the Klipschorn's so I guess that's why I still hold on to them, and I enjoy the sound of them just as Klipsch made them! It will all boil down to your own personal taste!! Hope this helps. Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I made a copy of Catbo's Super Cornwalls (CornScalas) here: http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/102542.aspx?PageIndex=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 My Super Cornwall (CornScala) I built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 My Klipschorn's, KLF-20, and RF-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Wow...klipschorns, klf20's and RF7's. Color me impressed! How does the RF7 sound compare to the k-horns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 The RF-7 is still a favorite of mine. It doesn't have the room filling sound like the Klipschorn's but it does a great job simulating it as long as you stay in the sweet spot. It has the ability to have a very pin-point robust vocals and imaging. It is also very revealing and detailed but in a more direct path way, very reference quality. I don't think I'll be able to part with the RF-7. When I read some say the RF-7 are harsh, I just shake my head in disbelief, they are not harsh sounding. If they get harsh it's something else in the equipment chain they are using causing it. I have stock RF-7 and it has alot of presence much like the Klipschorn and I've heard a tame down RF-7 and didn't like it. I think Klipsch did an excellent job with the RF-7 for large sound in a smaller package, excellent for music and HT. I also really like the clarity that the KLF-20 have. So far, any Klipsch speaker I've ever had, I've felt they did a great job on speaker sound/design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 The RF-7 is still a favorite of mine. It doesn't have the room filling sound like the Klipschorn's but it does a great job simulating it as long as you stay in the sweet spot. It has the ability to have a very pin-point robust vocals and imaging. It is also very revealing and detailed but in a more direct path way, very reference quality. I don't think I'll be able to part with the RF-7. When I read some say the RF-7 are harsh, I just shake my head in disbelief, they are not harsh sounding. If they get harsh it's something else in the equipment chain they are using causing it. I have stock RF-7 and it has alot of presence much like the Klipschorn and I've heard a tame down RF-7 and didn't like it. I think Klipsch did an excellent job with the RF-7 for large sound in a smaller package, excellent for music and HT. I also really like the clarity that the KLF-20 have. So far, any Klipsch speaker I've ever had, I've felt they did a great job on speaker sound/design.I couldn't agree more! My 7's will always be part of the family and have a place next to the Cornwall's and the Cornscala's without taking a back seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikjohn Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 I have got to believe that if the bass is comparable to the Khorns then the Khorns are not properly sealed in corners. Just the physics of the designs, it seems that something is amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Both are basically the same 15" woofer. They just do bass differently by design. Klipschorn encased woofer ports from the sides out into the room, while the CornScala ports direct, both woofer and ports, still a very large bass sound but much stronger centered by design. My Klipschorn's are very good in it's corners, I have no issues with it, it's the best they've sounded in this house than the other house, they are also the tighest fit you can get, it won't get any better than what I'm getting, that's not an issue, they are just doing bass differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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