CHASLS2 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Good to know, this will save me some money. I am have RC7 with my RF7's and have kinda wondered if the RC64ll would be a good step up. Guess i will hang on to my RC7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 For you new guys: In case you don't know, you can search the forum for this topic & others. There is a wealth of information gathered through the years. Interesting reading. Welcome to the forum btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpusedyou Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 What a DOWNGRADE! After setting up properly level matching to the RF-7s, I turned on Star Trek Blu Ray. The sound coming out of the center channel was softer, not NEARLY as bright as the RC-7. I would not say a downgrade as is in "inferior" just not matching as well as the RC-7. I too notice that my RC-64 does not have the crispier(brighter) tone of my RF-63's, which I think is partially due to it being an acoustic suspension(sealed) speaker as opposed to ported. I think a sealed cabinet by design does soften the tone a bit. With tonal EQ'ing, I have been able to better match them to where I am pretty satisfied with the results. A brighter sounding amp on the center channel than on the fronts may also do the trick. The RC-7 is ported with the exact 1.75 inch horn tweeter as the RF-7's which would clearly explain the better tonal match. These are my opinions and experiences only and am going on the record in saying I am not forcing them on anyone else.[:#][] Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornfedksboy Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm always glad to read first hand reviews, espescially when there is an A/B comparison as gorm did. Anyone can read through spec sheets or check Klipsch to find out what speakers are tonally matched, but it's good to know what is "heard" in a paticular setting. I was certainly suprised to read that the RC-64 II was a disapointment, but I've never heard the RC-7 (nor Dean G mods) nor the newest rendention of the RC-64 and I don't often listen to 5 channel stereo. My only reasonable comparison was when I switched from the RC-3 to the RC-62. I ran Audyssey immediately after the switch and the differences were minimal. The only tangible difference I found was that the RC-62 was (not suprisingly) a better tonal match to my RF-82s and it created a slightly better integration between right, left, and center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vital Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I too notice that my RC-64 does not have the crispier(brighter) tone of my RF-63'sAre you talking about the RC-64 or RC-64 ll? Wasnt the RC-64 built to match the RF-63/RF-83 series? They should be a perfect match shouldnt they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Are you talking about the RC-64 or RC-64 ll? Wasnt the RC-64 built to match the RF-63/RF-83 series? They should be a perfect match shouldnt they? I am talking about the RC-64. Yes the RC-64 was designed to be tonally matched to the RF-63/RF-83 but it is not perfectly matched. It is definitely plenty good to me but just not exactly the same. By virtue of design, an acoustic suspension speaker will not sound "exactly" like the "matching" bass reflex speaker of the same series. I am somewhat splitting hairs a bit with my comments but to me, the RF-63/RC-64 combo does not produce the exact same tone. Maybe in the area of 90% to 95% tonally matched, if there was a way to measure it. A perfect match would be another RF-63. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vital Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I am talking about the RC-64. Yes the RC-64 was designed to be tonally matched to the RF-63/RF-83 but it is not perfectly matched. It is definitely plenty good to me but just not exactly the same. By virtue of design, an acoustic suspension speaker will not sound "exactly" like the "matching" bass reflex speaker of the same series. I am somewhat splitting hairs a bit with my comments but to me, the RF-63/RC-64 combo does not produce the exact same tone. Maybe in the area of 90% to 95% tonally matched, if there was a way to measure it. A perfect match would be another RF-63.Ahh I see... yes I understand what you mean about another RF-63 for the absolute perfect match. I have 3 RF-7s across my front for this reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorm Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 Well knowing how the test with the RC-64 II went, I decided to move my RS-7s up to where my RS-62s were. Wow...I really believe Klipsch when they say the RS-7s were designed to be paired with the RF-7s. I placed the speakers slightly lower than the RS-62s, and...wow. The sound just rolls right off the front speakers and onto the surrounds. I have since picked up a second set of RS-7s for my rear surrounds. I'll have the RS-62s up for sale soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Over the years I have tried several replacements(rb5's etcc) for the rs7's but non really gave me as good experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornfedksboy Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Very interesting how different sounding the original Reference series is from it's legacy counterparts. I know Klipsch has made extensive efforts to "tame" the brightness in each succession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivernuggets Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 ...you can search the forum for this topic & others. There is a wealth of information gathered through the years. With respect, there isn't much in there that compares the RC-7 and RC-64II. As technology moves on, and new model lines are introduced, it's good to revisit material in the now. For many topics Arky is right, click 'Advanced Search' to scour the archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezff Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Maybe I missed something, but I wouldnt have expected the RC64ii to match with older RF7s anyway. I guess im not suprised nearly as other people in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Maybe I missed something, but I wouldnt have expected the RC64ii to match with older RF7s anyway. I guess im not suprised nearly as other people in here. Why would you think they wouldn't match? Fwiw, I tried to get a discussion at AVSForum here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1362462 after I saw several Klipsch posters over there say it was okay to mix and match center channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstanger Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I don't think there was anything wrong with my RC-64 II, i just think my DeanG modded equipment or perhaps the older RF-7's, RC-7s are just in a different league. Gorm, After reading this I was lucky enough to find a RC-7 with DeanG upgrade on CL. I have a RC-64 and can't wait to see what the RC-7 does for my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezff Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Older series vs. newer series etc.... I'm assuming the rc7 is voice matched to that series. Maybe I missed something, but I wouldnt have expected the RC64ii to match with older RF7s anyway. I guess im not suprised nearly as other people in here. Why would you think they wouldn't match? Fwiw, I tried to get a discussion at AVSForum here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1362462 after I saw several Klipsch posters over there say it was okay to mix and match center channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorm Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 If you RF-7s are not DeanG's then its possible that the RC-7 may seem less bright than the RF-7s. Also, when I get the RC-7 I would pull out the cross over and verify that it is a DeanG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstanger Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 If you RF-7s are not DeanG's then its possible that the RC-7 may seem less bright than the RF-7s. Also, when I get the RC-7 I would pull out the cross over and verify that it is a DeanG. My front 7's are DeanG just check RC-7 it is a DeanG After about 15 minutes with this the RC-7 hooked up I believe I will have a black RC-64 for sale soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorm Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yay! [] I'm serious, I never appreaceated the RC-7 DeanG until I swapped it out. However, soon I will have a custom RF-7 for sale, so I'll likely have to sell the RC-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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