ldl01031 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I refuse to calculate how much per day it has cost me since I joined this forum 7 days ago. It all started with the LFE post being flakey on my SC-27. I had the cable taped to the wall in a precise position. If someone slammed the front door, I lost the sub. It was livable, but annoying (and I couldn't bear parting with it for a week or two of repair). Then it dawned on me - I'll bet they have a new model out by now, and "if" it has two LFE posts, I'll get it (I didn't like running a splitter to supply two subs). Then I thought about my center channel and how in some movies it seemed so hard to hear dialog. If you turned it up enough to get good dialog, the music and sound effects had my neighbors convulsing in their front yards. I'm sure there were some actions I could have taken but the whole system had been through the automated setup so it should have been very close. So - perhaps I needed to get a new center speaker too. I've heard good things about Klipsch - let's see what they have. But of course the front three should match. And snowball it did. I had 4 JBLs, 3 Triads, and 2 subs. Here's what I've ended up with: Living room Monitor Pioneer PRO-141FD Receiver Pioneer SC-57 Blu-ray Pioneer BDP-09FD Amplifier Emotiva XPA-5 Front RF-82 II Center RC-62 II Front Wide RF-82 II Front Height RB-61 II Surround RF-62 II B.Surround RB-81 II Subwoofer (2)Chrysalis Photon-10 Monster Power Xbox 360 / Kinnect / Wireless Force Feedback Racing Wheel Denon CD Player / Toshiba VCR / Pioneer Turntable Comcast HD Cable Box Desktop computer connected to PRO-141FD Gigabit network running to Computer/Monitor/Receiver/Blu-ray Harmony 1100 Remote Bedroom Monitor Samsung Tantus 55” Receiver Pioneer SC-27 Blu-ray Sony BDP-S350 Front Triad Silver LCR Center Triad Silver LCR Surround Triad Silver Surround Subwoofer Triad Bronze Gamecube Comcast HD Cable Box The only good break I got (price-wise) was when I ordered 4 RF-62 II's but they only had 2 in stock. I was on the verge of waiting until the first of the year when the guy said "well how about if I upgrade two of the 62's to 82's - we have those in stock." I replied "Sir, you have my business." Merry Christmas to me! -- and to all. -ldl- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I refuse to calculate how much per day it has cost me since I joined this forum 7 days ago. What? you're expecting sympathy from this group of enablers? [] Welcome to the forum, congrats on your new toys and as you may soon find out.... it only gets worse! you should seek counsel while you are still salvagable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I think a closer simile would be "This forum is crack and I'm an addict" followed by "You guys are all dealers!" Great purchases, now go get a camera and show us some pics!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Nice......VERY nice[H] I'll bet that Pioneer video setup is sweet! But you did all this in a WEEK? WOW. It took me almost 10 years to get my HT where I finally wanted it....well worth the wait to be sure. And yes, this place is full of enablers, but we do bring results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoker2c Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 With that time frame and that set up I give him until 3pm to start the search for a rc64![] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldl01031 Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Do you think I need one? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Do you think I need one? Given a chance, we'll have you into a 7.3 Heritage system by weeks end...unless of course, you move like a....[sn] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 15, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 15, 2011 You sure won't find me shedding any tears for you. Bah Humbug! LOL [] What an awesome Christmas gift to yourself. You shouldn't have...no really, you shouldn't have. [] Welcome to the forums. The RF-82 is truly a great all around Reference setup that won't totally break the bank. Lot of bang for your buck with it. Enjoy your new toys and don't forget to post pics and a review once you get it all setup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuBXeRo Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 this place is liek crack and the best forum that i have been apart of over the years and its the hospitality and genuine positive interest as well as wealth of knowledge that i have encountered over the years. I will say that my spending has increased ridiculously since i joined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennoc442 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 When my wife see's me on my phone on this forum, she shakes her head and says "GET OUT OF THE GARAGE SECTION!" Well what can I say, Ive always wanted to upgrade/try/test/trade/switch/oh ive always wanted a.......!! At least its not crack im addicted to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuBXeRo Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 my gf used to make fun of me for going on my fish forum (aquariacentral) all the time casuse i had a 72 gallon tank, shed called it the fishy forum....now she just nods her head when the word speakers comes out of my mouth or she sees me cruising the forum. She also calls me nerd boy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 this place is liek crack Yep - and given the pleasures and addictive qualities of what we do here, it's a good thing this hasn't been made illegal (because anything this much fun usually is). I refer to the best systems here as "Schedule One" - not designed for any medical purpose, but strictly for pleasure. If the gov only knew.....but we'll keep it our little secret[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldl01031 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Now I'm wondering if I went a step too far. The unused speaker posts on the back of my SC-57 were as taunting as empty memory slots in a computer. But... For music, I most enjoy the 'extended stereo' mode which uses 'all' speakers without a bunch of surround sound processing. However, if the SC-57 finds front height speakers it uses those rather than the front wide. Obviously, I would rather hear the RF-82's than the RB-61's. So - I have to go through a bunch of menu options to turn off the front height speakers to listen the way I want to (and then reverse that process to watch a movie). And for movies - in order to use 9.1, I have to use 'Neo:X' mode. I've only watched one movie so far (Battle: Los Angeles) and in Neo:X the experience seemed subdued and the dialog was muffled (do I need that RC-64!? - just kidding). About 2/3 through I switched to 'Auto Surround' (5.1 for this blu-ray) and it sounded way better. Of course I'm still assuming that the Neo:X will switch between FH and FW as appropriate during the same movie. I haven't had time to confirm/disaffirm that yet. So - perhaps I should just take down the FH speakers (and have some really nice computer speakers)? I guess I should give it some time and experimentation. If anyone has experience with this type of thing or suggestions I'd like to hear about it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vital Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Nice!!! Merry Christmas!!! It's nice treating yourself to nice, new stuff! Welcome to the forums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 And for movies - in order to use 9.1, I have to use 'Neo:X' mode. I've only watched one movie so far (Battle: Los Angeles) and in Neo:X the experience seemed subdued and the dialog was muffled (do I need that RC-64!? - just kidding). About 2/3 through I switched to 'Auto Surround' (5.1 for this blu-ray) and it sounded way better. Try the "ALC" mode or the "Action" mode on your Pioneer while watching movies. Made a huge impact when I watched Battle Los Angeles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezff Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 its funny, because when a member gets new toys, we all flock here and comment. Very nice setup. Im also running RF62s as surrounds, you will love em. Sound and conveinance of a floorstander as a surround. Not worry yourself about getting a RC64. Enjoy what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldl01031 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm back I've been enjoying my movies and my music but I thought that after almost 5 years, I deserved a small upgrade. That upgrade has, umm, snowballed a bit. So - by Wednesday evening, I'll have (in my main theatre - by the way, amusingly, the 'main theatre' is 13 feet by 15.5 feet - might I have more equipment than I need?): Center: Klipsch RC-62 IIFront/Left: Klipsch RP280FAFront Wide: Klipsch RF82 IISurround: Klipsch RF82 IISurround Back: Klipsch RF62 IISubwoofers (2): Klipsch R-115SWMonitor: Pioneer Elite PRO-141FD Blu-Ray: Pioneer Elite BDP-88FDReceiver: Pioneer Elite SC-99Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-5Game: Xbox One Computer: Dell Workstation, 24 processors, 48GB RAM, 6 SSD Drives etc. Playing music on Ext. Stereo using all those speakers is ... sublime. Watching Mad Max cranked up in Atmos is absolutely amazing! Anyway, other rooms are almost as bad (I mean good!). Which brings me to a question: 1. In my son's room, we now have a Pioneer Elite SC-57 receiver, a Yamaha YST-SW012 subwoofer, and two Klipsch RB-61 II speakers (plus other stuff). Question: Would bi-amping those small RB-61 speakers make a difference? Or is bi-amping just useful when you're pushing large speakers towards their limits? (guess I should read up on bi-amping). 2. Given the diminutive size of my main theatre, does it make any sense to upgrade my center channel? The Pioneer MCACC calibration software already sets it to '-12' (the lowest setting) and calibrates other speakers accordingly. So - would it be simply wasteful to buy a larger center? If not, how about the RP-450CA? I'm not sure my receiver would let me run the RP-450CA and the RP280FA together. The Pioneer manual isn't giving me much help figuring it out. The Klipsch documentation isn't helping either. For example, - what is the configuration of that speaker - does the RP-450CA does have a 'top speaker'? - or no?). All the pictures show a monitor sitting on top of the RP-450CA. Bad marketing photos? If no top speaker, why call it a 'Reference Premiere Dolby Atmos® Center Speaker'? I'm itching to buy one, but if it is just giving me a hurricane to blow out birthday candles - well, I don't need to be silly about it. Looking forward to hearing from folks who know... Thanks, -ldl- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapsnb01 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) To answer your questions... 1 - No. Biamping will make no difference with the passive crossovers. So, not really worth the bother. 2 - if it's setting your center at max down level then something isn't right in your setup. The center (or any other speaker for that matter) should not be getting set at the max value. You might try running the setup again? Are you using multiple positions in the setup or just the main listening position? As pertains to the RP-450...newer doesn't necessarily mean better. Edited March 17, 2016 by kapsnb01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldl01031 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 I'd been itching to upgrade the RC-62 for too long ... a new RP-450CA was delivered today. As for the calibration - I see this always. I have an sc-27 in my office. The LR speakers are just 6 or 7 feet away and that receiver sets them to -10 (its lowest setting). I've run lots of calibrations over time (and always from just the one listening position) and the center always gets set to minimum. I just assumed it is because it is only 6 feet away. I usually set it up one notch and adjust all the other speakers accordingly. By the way - that's another question. Is it usual for MCACC to set the volume on surrounds (and back surrounds) to lower levels than the front/center? I always have to punch up the surrounds - seems like MCACC should set them all to be the same level? Thanks for the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzog Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Nice setup! You are definitely correct, this is quite the candy store! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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