Guest " " Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 This was posted quite a while back but difficult to find during a search, so here it is all by itself. KPTKHJKPT402K69A.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 [Y] Thanks, I needed that .pdf as at some point I may change the Wall's K'horns to Jube's with a passive system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks, I needed that .pdf as at some point I may change the Wall's K'horns to Jube's with a passive system. trying to kep it circulated.....btw, what ever happended to the klipsch history document? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Still working on V3+. I need to head to Indy for that and my first year of retirement has not been as kind to me in terms of time I want to spend on Klipsch "stuff". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 here is a jpeg of the passive speakerfritz posted This was Roy's orginal KPT-KHJ-LF/KPT402/K69A v1 version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here is the Z-Plot for the Jubilee System with the v1 passive crossover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here is the Z-Plot for the Jubilee System with the v1 passive crossover do you have an spl plot to match ....I don't think I would care about impedenace if the spl was flat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 For anyone using amplifiers like single ended tube amplifiers with high output impedances......This is an add on modification by Roy for the v1 passive that compensates for the impedance shifts and lessens any frequency response shifts when using these type amplifiers with the Jub and the v1 passive. In other words it helps to minimize one variable in perceived sound(ie: tonal shifting) when using high output impedance amplifiers(like the SE Tube Type) with this v1passive/Jub system . Just add these zobels to the input of the LF and HF sections of the v1 passive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here is the KPT-KHJ/K402/K69A v1 passive with zobel modification Z-Plot Note: this is a more benign load as far as Z-variation but will consume a little more power to acomplish this so keep that in mind if using flea power single ended amps with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This is Roy's last passive design v2 for the KPT-KHJ-LF/KPT402-Horn/K69A-Driver Roy's goal was to "make fr smoother and boosts the top end up a bit to make it closer to the active settings." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here is the Z-Plot for the Jubilee System with the v1 passive crossover do you have an spl plot to match ....I don't think I would care about impedenace if the spl was flat... These Impedence swings really don't matter with low imprdance SS amps. With SE Tube amps the Z compensation would keep things more equal to the orginal voicing of the system but that isn't a guarantee that someone would prefer the correction because it does subtlety alter the tonal balance of the system so depending on other variables who knows what any given individual might prefer. This is Roy's anechoic FR Plot with v1 passive system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 excellent info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Would love to see a passive design for a TAD driver!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatever55 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 On 11/6/2016 at 2:46 AM, ClaudeJ1 said: Would love to see a passive design for a TAD driver!! Have you found one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 14 hours ago, whatever55 said: Have you found one ? Yes. Roy did one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted September 21, 2017 Klipsch Employees Share Posted September 21, 2017 found this one. JUB51069.PDF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Chief bonehead said: found this one. JUB51069.PDF Thanks. That is the one I have....Afraid for some reason "wasn't official" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Thank you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 OK I am late to this topic and a dollar short but thinking along these lines with some MWM bins. On the schematics what is a 2.25mh SLC DCR <.5 ohms? I know it is an inductor but can't find the explanation of what exactly this is. Can I use this HF network for a 402 horn on the MWM's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 The inductor in series is acting as a lowpass filter. The capacitors in parallel are also lowpass filters. The HF section is designed for a K-510 horn and is not interchangeable with the K-402. What you are trying to merge together, can become quite complicated to get right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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