Beechnut Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Scrappy, u'd loose timbre if you don't get a RC-64ii also. You know what I bet you'd benefit more from, room treatments!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 i know beech.if i sell the 63's they will go with the 64 as well. and i really want to get the rf-7ii's all the way across the front, but if i can't then i will get the newer 64ii for the timbre matched tweeter. and dtel, my room is small now but once i move in november and start down this new path of life and leaving the military behind, i should have a large room that will be a dedicated theater room. hoping for 18X26-28 feet with 9 ft ceilings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted August 21, 2012 Moderators Share Posted August 21, 2012 18X26-28 feet with 9 ft ceilings. Wow, that will be sweet. When we drew up our plans to build, I had designed a 15 x 25 x 9 room but we ended up being able to buy a home that was 2 months out from being finished for much cheaper than we could build a house and it had a 13 x 19 room with 10 ceiling. Would have been nice to be a few feet wider and a few feet deeper but it still works out great. You will have plenty of room with yours being that size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Probably have to add two more ultras (or more) to get the same bass you have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted August 21, 2012 Moderators Share Posted August 21, 2012 i know beech.if i sell the 63's they will go with the 64 as well. and i really want to get the rf-7ii's all the way across the front, but if i can't then i will get the newer 64ii for the timbre matched tweeter. and dtel, my room is small now but once i move in november and start down this new path of life and leaving the military behind, i should have a large room that will be a dedicated theater room. hoping for 18X26-28 feet with 9 ft ceilings. Ok I didn't know your going to move in Nov, good for you. I now see why your thinking this way and even if the room ends up being a little smaller you will be good. If you really want the 7's and will have a bigger room go for it but also consider other models which work great in larger rooms. (just another oponion)......in a room that big also consider 3 Lascalas across the front, it's unbelievable. Not that I have a problem with any Rf model but for big sound in a big room you need big speakers, just something to think about. Maby try to get a listen to different models before you decide, buying twice is not cheap. Either way good luck and have fun, and THANKS for your service. [Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 I keep my ultras so low right now it's not even funny. I hope I won't need any more. They are good for 5000 cubic feet each and that room would be 4200 cubic feet. They should slam still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 An Dtel I would love to hear some scalas but my wife hates all the heritage stuff. She thinks it's terrible looking. She doesn't even like the 7iis so may end up having to keep my 63's. She loves them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted August 21, 2012 Moderators Share Posted August 21, 2012 You don't want to hear them, unless your wife can hear them also. But I'm all for keeping the wife happy, and they never forget anything so go the route with the least resistance. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Scrappy, your sub will be fine for that size room. My family room is around 4000 cft. not counting the open kitchen/dinning area off of it and my two subs are more than adequate. Start looking for some 7's for after the move. I know you will be glad to be out of the service and the possiblity of deployment. I may be the only one on this forum that feels the timber issues are not that big of a deal. Right now I am listening to some jazz and like the RC 64/RF 7 pairing on Neo 6 music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmassey Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I think what Reference meant by his comment is what Scrappy has currently is overkill for his current room. It will still be overkill for his next room, but not AS overkill? Having 4 PB13-Ultras would eventually pay for themselves if you are able get them to the right frequency to sonically castrate people out of your home theater room for a small fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASLS2 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 When i jumped to RF63's to the older RF7's i did not notice a big jump. Maybe RF7ll's are another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I may be wrong on the timber issues, I was looking at my avr manual and came across a page that said it contained a speacial timber filter for the speakers. That may be why I have not noticed this issues compared to other members mixing and matching speakers up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhurd Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 ^^^you weren't really wrong as you kept saying you think it was your AVRs correction that was fixing it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I think what Reference meant by his comment is what Scrappy has currently is overkill for his current room. It will still be overkill for his next room, but not AS overkill? Having 4 PB13-Ultras would eventually pay for themselves if you are able get them to the right frequency to sonically castrate people out of your home theater room for a small fee. Lol well I was half joking I guess. [] Even if what he has now is overkill less bass is still less. You never know really tell you get set up and turn it on. Every room is different and some rooms can be really hard to get the bass you want or are used to. If you can sit in the right spot and have the sub in the right spot. You could probably just run one ultra and be done (In fact I’m thinking about selling the two pb12+s and just keeping my ultra behind us). However depending on the spot you want them it may take more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJCarney Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Hey scrappy. I only read the first line of this thread so I apologize if I am repeating something. I made this exact switch last year. As far as the towers go I could not tell a discernible difference. The 7ii's fit my space better as they are less deep and of course the look of my cherry rf7ii's is fantastic. The big change was going from an rc62 to the rc64ii. That was a huge change. I was never able to hear a older rc64 so I couldn't tell you how it compares to the rc64ii. To be fair I have a smallish room and cannot take full advantage of the 7's or the 63's. I do have some nice subs and other equipment as you can see in my sig. Not sure if you have similar equipment or not so your situation may be different. I paid $1700ish for my 7's and $1100 for the 63's. Sold the 63's for $700 so the $1000 upgrade was probably not worth it for the towers alone. But getting the 7's kinda allowed for the rc64ii which was big. I think the best bang for my buck sound wise would have been to find an older rc64 and keep the 63's. However for me the upgrade overall was worth it because I love the look of my 7's. That said I recently found an rf82/rc62 front 3 for $400 which I will swap to if my 7's ever sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elitedemo Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Whats your source for the xpa2 and 5? I'd look around with your settings and start tweaking if your source doesn't offer enough options it'll be alot less expensive buying a new source...you could grab a xmc when they release. Rooms treatments may be another option that could help. Not sure how tight up your speakers are but bring them out as well, mine are around 12-18" out, I can safely say I spent a heck of alot of time in settings on eq and crossovers to get it where I think is right With 2 ultras and the right source equipment you will be able to make any speaker shine [Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Hey scrappy. I only read the first line of this thread so I apologize if I am repeating something. I made this exact switch last year. As far as the towers go I could not tell a discernible difference. The 7ii's fit my space better as they are less deep and of course the look of my cherry rf7ii's is fantastic. The big change was going from an rc62 to the rc64ii. That was a huge change. I was never able to hear a older rc64 so I couldn't tell you how it compares to the rc64ii. To be fair I have a smallish room and cannot take full advantage of the 7's or the 63's. I do have some nice subs and other equipment as you can see in my sig. Not sure if you have similar equipment or not so your situation may be different. I paid $1700ish for my 7's and $1100 for the 63's. Sold the 63's for $700 so the $1000 upgrade was probably not worth it for the towers alone. But getting the 7's kinda allowed for the rc64ii which was big. I think the best bang for my buck sound wise would have been to find an older rc64 and keep the 63's. However for me the upgrade overall was worth it because I love the look of my 7's. That said I recently found an rf82/rc62 front 3 for $400 which I will swap to if my 7's ever sell.Jason thanks for insight. So you were one of the guys I was waiting to chime in since I knew for sure you had both sets. I think my problem is same as yours for now. Too small of a space. But that hopefully will change soon. Just gonna hang with what i got for now then if I get a huge room maybe some rf-7ii will get looked at a little closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Duplicate post...gotta love em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhurd Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 That said I recently found an rf82/rc62 front 3 for $400 which I will swap to if my 7's ever sell.I'll trade you =^P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakesmith Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I think the biggest difference would be the woofer size is larger than the rf-63's, so bass being the biggest difference, but the rf-63's get plenty of low end if you are crossed over at around 80hz. Those dual SVS subs you have give you more than enough bass. 2 channel music is another story of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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