psg Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Hi all, I have a single rear Heresy II in a 6.1 configuration and want (1) to upgrade to 7.1, (2) reduce the speaker intrusion into the room with something more profiled and (3) maintain a good sonic match with my Klipschorn/La Scala/Heresy II HT. Unfortunately, restrictions on placement means that they can't be mounted symmetrically on the rear wall. See pics for placement position. This shouldn't be too much of an issue, right? I am eliminating the KPT-250 in spite of looking like a better match to my Heresy II side surrounds. It's a tad pricy and a tad big, although smaller than my current Heresy II. KPT-1201 pros: 99 dB sensitivity will be easier to integrate into my HT gain structure (2 dB higher than Heresy II, which I already have at +6 dB on my receiver) almost within budget (a tad over 1K after shipping, plus 15% taxes) 12-inch woofer and 1.75" compression driver! KPT-8001 pros: Even smaller than KPT-1201 Very affordable 97 dB sensitivity matches Heresy II The KPT-8001 looks a bit small to me with its 8-inch driver, but (1) 8-inch is large for the rest of the world and (2) this is for rear surround duty after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 SketchUp view... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Another question... The cut-sheet says that the input connectors are five-way binding posts. What are those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Well I say go with the 8001. These wont see a ton of action anyways as there still are less than 100 movies out with true 7.1. Unless you are a matrixing guy but even then like you said 8" is big for a lot of people. Ask anyone out there that has RB-81's and they will probably tell you that they are suitable mains and overkill for surround duty. I say save the money and go with those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Thanks for your vote! I suppose with the grill on, I wouldn't keep noticing the small woofer! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Who do you go through for the cinema line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 American Cinema Equipment. Could also try Panacea Engineering; they handle Jubs at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hmm, reading the KPT-100 ythread in the Pro section makes me realise that the KPT-8001 and KPT-1201 speakers have x-curve high-frequency de-emphasisas part of the crossover. But we don't want that for home theater! Now I am confused... The KPT-250 is a much bigger and much more expensive speaker than what i wanted to use as rear surrounds, but has no X-curve. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 And now ya lost me. I like the ones you can just plug in and they sound amazing without anything else. I say stick with the heresy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If it's shipping from the US anyways, have it shipprd to Bob Crites first. He can wire around the x-curve in the crossover and then send it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 And now ya lost me. I like the ones you can just plug in and they sound amazing without anything else. I say stick with the heresy. The Heresy is big and intrudes too far into the room. It doesn't matter on the sides because one is recessed in-wall and the other is in a part of the room where we go walk around, but I walk behind the seond row seats to get to the AV rack and the Heresy is a bit in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 If it's shipping from the US anyways, have it shipprd to Bob Crites first. He can wire around the x-curve in the crossover and then send it to you. I could do that myself if I knew what to modify (otherwise adds to the cost quite a bit). Seems odd to buy a new product that requires modification... I'd have to get the crossover diagram from Klipsch for the KPT-8001... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If it's shipping from the US anyways, have it shipprd to Bob Crites first. He can wire around the x-curve in the crossover and then send it to you. I could do that myself if I knew what to modify (otherwise adds to the cost quite a bit). Seems odd to buy a new product that requires modification... I'd have to get the crossover diagram from Klipsch for the KPT-8001... The extra shipping and Bob's mod would add about $50.00 to the total cost of your speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 If it's shipping from the US anyways, have it shipprd to Bob Crites first. He can wire around the x-curve in the crossover and then send it to you. I could do that myself if I knew what to modify (otherwise adds to the cost quite a bit). Seems odd to buy a new product that requires modification... I'd have to get the crossover diagram from Klipsch for the KPT-8001... The extra shipping and Bob's mod would add about $50.00 to the total cost of your speaker. They were saying over $300 to ship them here, and they would have to ship twice, and Bob doesn't work for free... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis419b Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Check with Bill Hendrix ! I bet he can tell you what to do to avoid the X curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Pete, you have PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Check with Bill Hendrix ! I bet he can tell you what to do to avoid the X curve. I couldn't find anyone that could tell me what to do to correct it (I may not have asked the right people though) the x-curve so I sent one of mine to Bob Crites to figure it out. I should have it back today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Pete, you have PM. Thanks for the head-ups. Otherwise it could have taken me a week to notice it; happens to me all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Pete, you have PM. Thanks for the head-ups. Otherwise it could have taken me a week to notice it; happens to me all the time. OK, you have PM again[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdog Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I wouldn't sweat the whole Xcurve thing. The specs on the 8001 say 3db down at 17khz. The spec for your current heresy is worse. I use the 1201s for my rear surrounds and I am very happy. I looked into the whole Xcurve thing before I bought and it just confused me. No way these speakers have a 3db per octave roll off starting at 2khz. I think I would hear that but who knows. I do occasionally listen to 5.1 music with my KPT 12-VB sides and they match my K horns just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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