synergyfreak Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I have a dedicated 2nd sub since its 7.2, sub works but even when I go into settings onscreen just shows one sub, cant seem to find my setup mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I am confused, I thought you had a 7.1 avr. If it is 7.1 the second sub will not show. With the Y-connector it will see them as one sub. This is ok since it is not EQ'ing them. It will treat them as one sub for standing wave correction and phase control. Set the phase to 0 in most cases. You need a 2nd person to setup variable phase control to see what yeilds the most output. If you don't have the mic, use a spl meter to setup ea. sub at 73 db, then check it again with both subs on and turn the sub down on the avr to equal the speaker settings of 70-75 and you should be pretty good. Remember you should not hear the subs when integrated into the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 no its 7.2 i upgraded to the newer elite vsx-60 receiver has two dedicated ports, when i played a movie was able to hear both subs bass, just in the on screen settings only showed one sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You did not re-run MCACC since you don't have the mic, correct? That may be why it is not showing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 was able to find my setup mic in the settings before running it which eq type is best use symmetry, all channels adjusted, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 i ran the mcacc set everything when it says subwoofer yes, there is also a setting for plus does that mean it will recognize two subs now just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Try it, but usually subwoofer plus is for double bass. Run full MCACC then set speaker to small or some other setting. Then run auto MCACC which will calibrate symmetry, all channels adj, and front align. The plus setting is not needed with descent sub and usually leads to bad bass. I would call Pioneer on the second sub not showing up in the GUI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 ok thanks will try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 One last thing, using sub plus or the double bass option may actually decreasse the bass in the room due to cancellation issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 I left it at sub yes and ran auto mcacc like you said, does it make a difference that I am running 5 speakers instead of 7 like in my old setup, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 No[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 ok just making sure noticed i needed to do an update for my receiver model, suppose to fix a pandora issue; I did find out from another forum that the only models that will show up in the mcacc as two subs is the previous sc-09 model, they said it maybe two separate sub outputs on the receiver, that was better to run a y adapter to both inputs, not sure if that sounds right or makes sense derrickdj1 what do you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The .2 mean that two sub can be hooked up to the two separate inputs. The avr will determine distance, phase and standing waves and set the subs up correctly. The standing wave setting under MCACC data check will show the three filters. One is for the sub and is a 3 band parametric equalizer for the sub. EQ' ing subs usually takes care of one dominant peak in the room. 2 subs work by evening out the bass response in the room due to modes. No amount of EQ'ing can get rid of room modes that came with the house. Using a Y connector with a .1 system of Pioneer will do the same thing. Unless your room is over 40 ft. no need to EQ below 60 Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Thanks think I have evened everything out using those recommendations, got a chance to play a blu ray other night really felt the output and sounds much more clean than my old sub-12 did, evened out everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Outstanding!! A great system setup correctly equals great sound. This is bring out all the power, detail and emotion of the the Klipsch.[Y][<)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 My audio guy is coming to dial in the sound bars for my other TVs he calibrated my 54 inch vt25 going to have him check everything to see if its dialed in perfect. Been bidding on the RC-7. On eBay so will finish out my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivadselim Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Not sure how this has resolved (or if it has) but just because an AVR has 2 separate sub outs and/or is called by its manufacturer an "x.2" AVR doesn't mean that the two sub outs are treated individually and independently. On some AVRs they are, and the AVR can EQ and bass and time manage each output independently, but on many AVRs the 2 sub outs are simply duplicate outputs that provide nothing that is any different than using a Y-splitter on an AVR's single sub out could provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 thanks I was trying to understand that myself someone reccommended in the avs forums using a ysplitter on the main sub preout, is this recommended, do you lose any dbs by doing this just curious since never tried it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 do you lose any dbs by doing this just curious since never tried it before. No dbs will be harmed in the process of that procedure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synergyfreak Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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