Moderators dtel Posted January 3, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 3, 2013 Just to throw this out there There has been some false corners that were built into/onto the Khorns that made them look similar to the Jube bottom that actually looked original when done correctly. I would keep the sound you like and let you point then in ideal directions. If my old memory is correct it was tigerwood veneer used and it may have been this member. They look very nice........just an idea to help keep your favorite speakers. http://community.klipsch.com/members/tigerwoodKhorns.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I share the opinion that the Lascala and Belle will resembleeach other more than to the khorn given the lost bass extension, but eithercould work with a proper subwoofer. TheVittora can also be had with it’s subwoofer. On paper, the LaScala is the more similar (same horns, samex-over frequencies, etc…) but this, on the other hand, will also make the lostbass extension more obvious. The Belleprobably sounds more balanced given the higher midrange crossover and droppedoverall efficiency, making the lost bass less apparent (I’ve never had the opportunityto listen to a Belle side by side). And despite being a direct radiator, I always thought theCornwall’s bass a better match to the Khorns… am I the only one? Volti does offer a pre-packaged “cornscala” in his Alura... ROb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipbarrett Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 but either could work with a proper subwoofer Define please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Define please. That is capable to produce the volumes you will be listening to, without distortion. I feel the sonic “characteristics” are not as obvious when in the sub-bass regions... and placement, room effects, and adjustment will play a bigger role assuming you are not distorting. If you do all your listening at low volumes, or your musical preferences are not very bass’y, then your selection is quite big … but if you enjoy uncompressed, dynamic, music at louder volumes, your selection will diminish. That is one of the issues when mating a subwoofer with speakers capable to reproduce over 120db. What do you listen to and what are your sources? (vinyle, CD, flac, Bluray, etc…) I’m using DIY units in both my systems and am not up to date on the current subwoofer models (the subwoofer forum may be of more help there)… but if you want an efficient subwoofer with good bass extension, Hoffman’s Iron Law (that relates efficiency and bass extension to enclosure size) certainly applies, and the reason many heritage owners are using such LARGE subwoofers. If you do look around for a subwoofer, try and figure out before hand what budget, size, WAF, potential placement, etc... you are willing to live with... ROb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I think i have to agreee with Dtel on this one. False corners done properly might be the best option yet. At least its realtively cheap to try before we do anything crazy like putting a nice set of Khorns on the used market. Try to keep your horns. this could be a different thread but Im all about subs...good subs. The Bass from my 684 is tight, not boomy, very concise and to the point. but its larger than your average unit. Bigger subs are better...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipbarrett Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Since my job involves lots of big speaker boxes I'm pretty familiar with the whiles and ways of subwoofers. Personally I prefer horn loads but they're getting harder & harder to find these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 There are several companies making nice horn loaded subslike Danley, as well as some very interesting DIY designs floating around onthe net. Check out some of Carl’s (CECAA850)projects on here... he’s built and owned, built, sold, quite a few of thecurrent designs... and would be quiteapt at comparing them. Of coarse all afthem are large. I also noticed you are using a dbx expander... so I’mthinking “dynamic” would describe how you like your music. I’m using a IB sub with khorns on my mainsystem... once I tried it, there was no going back… ROb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipbarrett Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 I also noticed you are using a dbx expander... Good eye but it's bypassed. The dynamics were nice but the stereo image suffered. I leave it hooked up for the flashing lights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Overall there is not a great deal of difference in the sound of a late model La Scala compared with a later model Belle. I think more differences are heard when comparing an earlier model with a later model. I think the Belle sounds slightly less colored and congested though. I put this down to the Belle's superior cabinet construction. The Belle sounds best when pulled away from the back wall, with the listener sitting at one point of an equilateral triangle, and the speakers sitting at each of the other two points. You give away a little boundary reinforcement in the lower frequencies, but the gains in sound staging and imaging are profound. I use a REL subwoofer to fill in the lower frequencies. The REL is snug into a corner with the crossover set to start rolling off from 30 Hz upwards. I tried a slightly higher crossover setting with the sub, but it started to muddy the superb horn bass too much. Now it's perfect, and I reckon my setup would give a pair of Klipschorns something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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