ChipByrd Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The following ad is on a local CL. I was hoping to get the thoughts of those more informed on Corwalls. It is apparently b stock and the tweeters are slightly misaligned. He compensated by building appropriate size stands. Really hope to hear any opinions on these. http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/ele/3573751978.html Thanks, Chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 corns http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/ele/3573751978.html a first for me is cornwalls on stands. i have never heard of B-stock corns but anything is possible. if he raised up the other tweeter what did he do to fill in the gap. i would ask what the label said on the back and also what are the seial numbers stamped in the wood. my guess they are from 1976 he says he removed the grills and grill frames they could have been decorators from the factory. regular cornwalls are recessed to accept the grills so i guess he could have cut the fronts off to make them decorators. lots of people add screen molding or 1/2" round molding to the fronts of decorators and Lascalas to add grills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Thanks. He said he thought they were from 75 so that makes sense. He said he didn't move the tweeter, he made one stand a tad higher so the tweeters would both be at ear height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 75's would have an N stamped in the wood from the picture look at how much stock is below the 2 ports compared to the other one. one looks like and 1" and the other 2" if i remember correctly decorators were taller than regular corns. i would guess they are 2 different years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 cornwall decorators... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 So you think 2 different years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Those stands are not very secure or stable i would not use them. A four post stand with a base plate 3/4" larger overal dimensions of the cabinet will be very stable, you wnat the stand just high enough to place the centre of the mid horn at your seated ear level. A chorus ll uses a better woofer than the Cornwall does and imo a better mid horn not to mention a K79 instead of the K77. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I have decorators and built 2-post stands for them. But my posts were of 4 x 4 wood. I agree. Those stands look precarious. I would not use them. As for the speakers, they are decorators, but the bottom ports are different as noted. I think black is ugly for such a nice speaker. I'd hold out and find ones with wood stain finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted February 20, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2013 I wonder if they are real Klipsch cabinets? B stock does not mean the ports are different and a tweeter is not in the right place. One question.......did the older Cornwalls have the grill mounted on the front without the overlap of the side like the new models? Or is that just on the decorator models ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I dunno...I'd like to see the build tag for these. It's very odd for the HF driver(s) to be so far off. I mean, I would be pretty sure a template was used for the cutouts. OTOH: The cutout for the woofers on my 84' CWO's are somehwere from an 1/8" to 1/4" cut too far to one side. I measured the other speaker and it's pretty much the same in the other direction. I noticed this when I was routing out the new cutouts for the Cornscala conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 i said in an earlier post anythings possible. take a look at Phill's 78 consec serial number corns for sale. one has 2 ports on one the other has 3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/121068836584?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted February 20, 2013 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2013 i said in an earlier post anythings possible. take a look at Phill's 78 consec serial number corns for sale. one has 2 ports the other has 3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/121068836584?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Very true anythings possible, if they don't have any kind of tag or markings that would be good reason to be a little suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 76 decorators. from the bottom of the port to the bottom of the speaker looks like about an inch IMO-the black pair above: the one on the right is a true decorator. the tweeter cutout is lower on decorators. the one on the left is a standard cornwall made into a decorator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Thanks for all the help. There are enough red flags that I think I am going to pass. I am just too ignorant of these to make a good decision. Thanks again, Chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy499 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Stay patient and you will find a better set. I found a nice set CRB that need a little sanding and stain for $500 locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Big Plus there will always be another deal. Google Alerts will keep you posted. Tommy don'tsand too much you dont want to erase decades of birch patina. See the glorious color oof the CW in the picture above? That beautiful natural color is only a few thousandths of an inch thick. If you have to sand down then you can reclaim some of that lustur and color with some orange shelac thinned down. Here is some very good wood workers advice. If you don't like the color of the wood you have don't stain it just get a wood you do like the color of. In most all cases stained wood looks like stained wood. The prime North American cluster stain job is walnut wiping stain on top of red oak. This sucks big time. Only very skilled and gifted workers can stain sucessfully and make it work and even then you can usually tell. I know that raw birch is white so wipe it withtung oil or linseed oil (boiled) once a week till you are happy with the color remember it will only get darker with age. After you stop oilinwait threee months and then coat with urathane. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipByrd Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Here are the numbers engraved in he back of the cabinets: 12R360 & 10P154 Does that tell you anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 R = 1977 and the P = 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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