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#1 ipaguy

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 12:30 AM

Can anyone id these and point me to more specs/info than the ad mentions?

http://sfbay.craigsl...4194660391.html

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 01:39 AM

As far as I know the woofers are the only difference other than cosmetics. I believe the woofer handles more power. That guy wants too much money IMO there are much better deals to be found. Are you going to use them for home use... Why don't you go for the other 2 pairs on Craigslist?

http://sfbay.craigsl...4184337834.html

http://sacramento.cr...4183575126.html

There was another pair in Stockton that were natural birch earlier this week for $900 or offer but they are gone now.

Keep your eyes open. I picked up a pair for $500 and a third one for $450 in the bay area.


Edited by ellisr63, 16 November 2013 - 01:42 AM.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 06:24 AM

Mobile BAY Area, good, that's close to me! ;-)
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Posted 16 November 2013 - 11:47 PM

As far as I know the woofers are the only difference other than cosmetics. I believe the woofer handles more power. That guy wants too much money IMO there are much better deals to be found. Are you going to use them for home use... Why don't you go for the other 2 pairs on Craigslist?

http://sfbay.craigsl...4184337834.html

http://sacramento.cr...4183575126.html

There was another pair in Stockton that were natural birch earlier this week for $900 or offer but they are gone now.

Keep your eyes open. I picked up a pair for $500 and a third one for $450 in the bay area.

K43 woofer instead of the K33 and twice the power rating at 200wp speaker.


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BluRay: Oppo BDP-93

Turntable: Rega P5 w/Ortofon 2M Blue

Projector: Epson 5020UB Screen: DaLite 130" HC Cinema Vision

Also in shop Fisher R660 and 2 80-AZ connected to front LaScalas

Front Scalas switched with Niles SPK-1

Subs for tubes: 2 Bill Fitzmaurice THT pwrd by Crown XLS-202

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 02:45 PM

The newer K33 woofers are rated for 150 watts.


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Posted 18 November 2013 - 06:32 PM

The newer K33 woofers are rated for 150 watts.

What? The old ones were rated at like 50 watts. The K43 was rated at 100. So you are saying the new K33 woofers can do 150? Are they still 4 Ohm?


Edited by mustang guy, 18 November 2013 - 06:35 PM.

Preamp: Integra DHC-80.3

Main amp: Integra DTA-70.1

Speakers: Left, Center, Right, Sides and Rear (6 total) La Scalas

Subs for HT mode: 2 KPT-684's powered by Yamaha P7000S

BluRay: Oppo BDP-93

Turntable: Rega P5 w/Ortofon 2M Blue

Projector: Epson 5020UB Screen: DaLite 130" HC Cinema Vision

Also in shop Fisher R660 and 2 80-AZ connected to front LaScalas

Front Scalas switched with Niles SPK-1

Subs for tubes: 2 Bill Fitzmaurice THT pwrd by Crown XLS-202

THT's Subwoofer controller Paradigm X30


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:42 PM

Im rebuilding my Industrial/Splits models at this very moment, Crites crossovers will be here Monday. and yes the 200 watts comes in handy.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 08:59 AM

if you put the 43's into a regular home version of a la scala, do the cross overs need to be changed out?


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:14 PM

No changes needed.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:21 AM

So, 200w for a great amp powering La Scala's got me to thinking. No one in their right or left mind wants these at that level! It would be uncomfortable to say the least!

Now a good clean amp at 200 WPC to handle say a gunshot or cannon explosion. Yes, in my HT it goes right through your chest and you feel the air move, too, like it happened to you!

People underestimate how efficient these are and how little it takes to drive them too. And if the old rule is you double the wattage to feel/hear a 2-3db difference.... So again, other than headroom, your never gonna need more than 200WPC and it's only going to feel 2-3db more. Which at that level can you tell really? Just saying!
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:24 AM

One more thing, if they are split industrials put a milk carton between them. Toe them into your sweet spot with a laser pointer! You will thank me later!!!
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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:56 PM

One more thing, if they are split industrials put a milk carton between them. Toe them into your sweet spot with a laser pointer! You will thank me later!!!

I agree that raising the tweeters is a good thing. It makes for a bigger and more realistic sound presentation. You can see the height of the tweeter on my right JubScala II in the avatar picture.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:32 PM

" Just saying!"

Just saying the midrange sounds better on the K43.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:56 PM

That 510 horn would be real nice on a La Scala top for real!!


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:27 PM

That 510 horn would be real nice on a La Scala top for real!!

The 510 horn/K-69 driver in combination with the Dx38 processor and pair of good matching power amps takes La Scala performance to a whole other level. You should try to get a listen to a pair of JubScalas.

On the other hand, if you really like the sound, you'll want to upgrade your mighty all-LS setup, and that would not be cheap, unless you only upgrade the front Left and Right speakers. Still not cheap, but more affordable than a 7-JubScala system.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:52 PM

I lost a fuse the other night in my right side wile breaking in the new Crites crossovers, pulled the amp and put it on the bench, have not looked at it yet, at least three more Guinness's before I look inside.

Meanwile I Barrowed the wife's mono blocks and made sure of good 5amp fuses in the LaScallas.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:10 PM



I lost a fuse the other night in my right side wile breaking in the new Crites crossovers, pulled the amp and put it on the bench, have not looked at it yet, at least three more Guinness's before I look inside.

Meanwile I Barrowed the wife's mono blocks and made sure of good 5amp fuses in the LaScallas.

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You may have serious problems , your 70w tube amp should not blow a 5amp fuse? K43 is good to 200W.

The woofer fuse is/was 3amps?


Edited by mach-1, 01 March 2014 - 10:58 PM.

Love that vinyl !!!

 

                                                                                                                                                                     


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:31 PM



I lost a fuse the other night in my right side wile breaking in the new Crites crossovers, pulled the amp and put it on the bench, have not looked at it yet, at least three more Guinness's before I look inside.

Meanwile I Barrowed the wife's mono blocks and made sure of good 5amp fuses in the LaScallas.

scan0004_zps1ee98d3d.jpg

You may have serious problems , your 70w tube amp should not blow a 5amp fuse? K43 is good to 200W.

The woofer fuse is/was 3amps?

Believe it or not it was a 2 amp, never looked at them, the Crites Crossovers don't look like the scematic listed anymore.

These should be fine both speakers are working fine, it's the amp I need to break into here in a wile.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:41 PM

at least three more Guinness's before I look inside.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:46 PM

t three more Guinness's before I look inside.

Only ten year old bourbon qualities you as a repair tech :D

as one ham to another K1WME whiskey mike echo


Love that vinyl !!!