jcmusic Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Are there any subs other than Horn loaded that will be keep up or match with khorns, for 2 channel music??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Look up Bill Fitzmaurice on the net. He has a line of DiY Horn subs, but, I'm told local builders can e found, sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Tuba HT would be a great match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 He was looking for OTHER than horn loaded. The SVS PBU would work well. USNRET has one with his Belles, sounds great. Some of the bigger Velodyne servo subs would work too I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tromprof Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Check these out. I would love to hear the 4 cubic ft. model. Somewhere around here is a build thread for one that looked sweet. http://www.diysoundgroup.com/subwoofer-flatpacks-2.htm If you have the space though the Cinema F-20 mates perfectly with the K-horn. Horn loaded bliss down to below 20hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Check these out. I would love to hear the 4 cubic ft. model. Somewhere around here is a build thread for one that looked sweet. http://www.diysoundgroup.com/subwoofer-flatpacks-2.htm If you have the space though the Cinema F-20 mates perfectly with the K-horn. Horn loaded bliss down to below 20hz. hey I know exactly how the 4 cu ft model sounds! Lol they are extremely clean subs with gobs of output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 How about a PSA Triax? It keeps up with my La Scalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 He was looking for OTHER than horn loaded. The SVS PBU would work well. USNRET has one with his Belles, sounds great. Some of the bigger Velodyne servo subs would work too I'd imagine. Exactly, I was hoping for something small if there is such a sub??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Sorry to lead everyone off in the wrong direction; old eyes & iPhone & I missed that important detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 He was looking for OTHER than horn loaded. The SVS PBU would work well. USNRET has one with his Belles, sounds great. Some of the bigger Velodyne servo subs would work too I'd imagine. Exactly, I was hoping for something small if there is such a sub??? I've copy and pasted Hoffmans iron law for you, it states you can have 2 of these 3 things in a sub. 1) Bass Extension 2) Efficiency 3) Small Enclosure So: You want small so you can either have Extension or Efficiency to go with that. That means having a small sub with a high excursion driver with mega watt amp (to overcome lack of efficiency) or a small efficient sub that won't go very low. For K-Horns, I'm assuming you'll want depth so you're going to have to look for something along the lines of a Sunfire type sub (Carver). Depending on how large your "small" sub is allowed to be, you might look for a used RSW-15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 THIS is about as much performance you can pack into a 15" cube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 He was looking for OTHER than horn loaded. The SVS PBU would work well. USNRET has one with his Belles, sounds great. Some of the bigger Velodyne servo subs would work too I'd imagine. Exactly, I was hoping for something small if there is such a sub??? I've copy and pasted Hoffmans iron law for you, it states you can have 2 of these 3 things in a sub. 1) Bass Extension 2) Efficiency 3) Small Enclosure So: You want small so you can either have Extension or Efficiency to go with that. That means having a small sub with a high excursion driver with mega watt amp (to overcome lack of efficiency) or a small efficient sub that won't go very low. For K-Horns, I'm assuming you'll want depth so you're going to have to look for something along the lines of a Sunfire type sub (Carver). Depending on how large your "small" sub is allowed to be, you might look for a used RSW-15. Thanks so much for the info and trying to help out much appreciated, I will look into the Sunfire and RSW 15.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Thanks so much for the info and trying to help out much appreciated, I will look into the Sunfire and RSW 15.... Don't forget the sub I put the link to in the above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Ugh I think those def tech cubes sound terrible. And way overpriced. 100 more should get you a Svs sb-13ultra. And it would destroy a def tech. All my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I guess it all depends on his budget and size limitations. The SVS is a couple inches larger in all dimensions and more expensive. You can get the DT for less than msrp, the SVS, not so. It all depends on what's most important to the OP. Size, price, performance? Was the DT that you heard set up properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks so much for the info and trying to help out much appreciated, I will look into the Sunfire and RSW 15.... Don't forget the sub I put the link to in the above post. I didn't I took a look at it and the specs, it is too big for what I am trying to do... What looks to be perfect size wise is the Sunfire True Sub Jr. the problem is I don't know if will work with the Khorns, plus I think I am gonna need to get two!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Have you considered having a table tuba built for you? They can be quite cleverly disguised. As a horn loaded sub, they would get along with your Khorns well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tromprof Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Have you considered having a table tuba built for you? They can be quite cleverly disguised. As a horn loaded sub, they would get along with your Khorns well. The tuba Table is an excellent sub to go along with La Scalas/K-horns for music. Although it doesn't do much below 25hz it matches the sound of big horns perfectly and can be disguised as a piece of nice piece furniture when executed well. I built mine to sit between La Scalas, now it is part of my KG theater. Edited November 27, 2013 by tromprof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 I had considered those type subs earlier but, the realazation is that I don't have the room for anything that big. I have enough space on two sides of my room to install a small sub on both sides. That's why I say the smaller the better size wise but, finding a sub that small to intergrate with the big horns may be difficult... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I had considered those type subs earlier but, the realazation is that I don't have the room for anything that big. I have enough space on two sides of my room to install a small sub on both sides. That's why I say the smaller the better size wise but, finding a sub that small to intergrate with the big horns may be difficult... The long version of the TT can be built as slim as 15x12 footprint assuming height is no issue + you can veneer to match your K horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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