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The last 2 plots show impulse and frequency response after applying active Impulse base PEQ, I presume?

That's quite impressive!

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On ‎3‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 8:55 AM, ClaudeJ1 said:

Those CBT's were the best sounding Direct Radiators I heard up to that point.

 

I also listened to Don's CBT's, supplemented with a pair of subwoofers. I was very impressed by the sound of all the music we played through them.

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1 hour ago, ARX said:

The last 2 plots show impulse and frequency response after applying active Impulse base PEQ, I presume?

That's quite impressive!

Correct. Tom Danley's setup in his living room from about 4-5 years ago.

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On 3/24/2019 at 1:46 PM, ClaudeJ1 said:

Correct. Tom Danley's setup in his living room from about 4-5 years ago.

He also uses twin TH-50 subs, like mine, below 40-50 Hz.

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The TH-50 seems to be the perfect complement to the SH-50. 

 

It's a pity the smaller Danley Synergies are still rare on this side of the pond.

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6 hours ago, ARX said:

The TH-50 seems to be the perfect complement to the SH-50. 

 

It's a pity the smaller Danley Synergies are still rare on this side of the pond.

I believe the TH-50 was his first or second TH sub design. I'm assuming he did it for himself, right after the SH-50, which was then extrapolated into all the other synergy horns. If you think about how many products now exist, it make Tom one of the, if not the, most prolific speakers designers in the USA.

 

But Klipsch, as a company sells way more speakers, since they hit so many markets, especially the home market, which, Danley does not.

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On 4/2/2019 at 9:23 AM, ClaudeJ1 said:

I believe the TH-50 was his first or second TH sub design. I'm assuming he did it for himself, right after the SH-50, which was then extrapolated into all the other synergy horns. If you think about how many products now exist, it make Tom one of the, if not the, most prolific speakers designers in the USA.

 

But Klipsch, as a company sells way more speakers, since they hit so many markets, especially the home market, which, Danley does not.

 

Here in Europe Danley/Pure Groove has become increasingly popular, but it's the bigger Jerichos and SHs that you'll primarily see at festivals and in theatres.

 

Also, from Europe (Germany) is this high end system, based on, or at least inspired by the Synergy concept.

These are marketed as "point-source cardiod dipole horns".

 

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"It is a 150 Hz upwards completely front-loaded 3 way horn, with additional bass supplement with two 15" bass drivers per side. 

The 1m² main horn works from 150Hz to 23Khz. 

The main horn is loaded by 5 drivers, the driving surface is therefore many times larger than the conventional horns.

On the back of the acoustically rearwardly open housing is an Airmotiontransformer.

The whole is supplemented by the towers with two 15 inchers per side, each driven by 500W power amplifiers.

It is active and dsp-controlled and available with 2, 3 or 4 basses per side".

 

This guy works almost exclusively with BMS drivers.

 

And now the best thing about it: 

It's only $350.000...

for a pair, if that helps 😉

 

Tom Danley is aware of this manufacturer, but apparently there is no violation of the patent involved.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ARX said:

 

 

Here in Europe Danley/Pure Groove has become increasingly popular, but it's the bigger Jerichos and SHs that you'll most likely see at festivals and in theatres.

 

Also, from Europe (Germany) is this high end system, based on, or at least inspired by the Synergy concept.

These are marketed as "point-source cardiod dipole horns".

 

 

 

"It is a 150 Hz upwards completely front-loaded 3 way horn, with additional bass supplement with two 15" bass drivers per side. 

The 1m ² main horn works from 150Hz to 23Khz. 

The main horn is loaded by 5 drivers, the driving surface is therefore many times larger than the conventional horns.

On the back of the acoustically rearwardly open housing is an Airmotiontransformer.

The whole is supplemented by the towers with two 15 inchers per side, each driven by 500W power amplifiers.

It is active and dsp-controlled and available with 2, 3 or 4 basses per side".

 

This guy works almost exclusively with BMS drivers.

 

And now the best thing about it: 

It's only $350.000...

for a pair if that helps 😉

 

Tom Danley is aware of this manufacturer, but apparently there is no violation of the patent involved.

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ultm-II_6.jpg

I want a pair.   

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21 minutes ago, ARX said:

It's 350k, no kidding.

Wow.  Yeah, I think I'll stick with klipsch and would rather buy a Lamborghini and a pair of jubes brand new and the rest of the system for the same price 

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1 minute ago, Westcoastdrums said:

Wow.  Yeah, I think I'll stick with klipsch and would rather buy a Lamborghini and a pair of jubes brand new and the rest of the system for the same price 

How about you just buy a pair of Danley SH-50's, which get down to below 40 Hz. in corners, and save $340,000? Plus you are buying the original instead of imitations by someone getting around a US Patent.

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14 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:

Wow.  Yeah, I think I'll stick with klipsch

If that includes free shipping, how could you turn that down ? Lol...

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27 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said:

How about you just buy a pair of Danley SH-50's, which get down to below 40 Hz. in corners, and save $340,000? Plus you are buying the original instead of imitations by someone getting around a US Patent.

That was my thought exactly and reason for posting that system.

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17 minutes ago, ARX said:

That was my thought exactly and reason for posting that system.

As owner and modifier of all things Klipsch, I have also own/have owned 22 MEH horns in different forms, all from the original designer, with the initials TD,  in the last 5 years. It's called putting your money where your mouth is, and putting a microphone where your ears are! I'm presently upgrading to a combination of the two companies for my 13 channel HT setup, including a new Tapped Horn Sub design of my own. Stay tuned.

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1 hour ago, Westcoastdrums said:

Wow.  Yeah, I think I'll stick with klipsch and would rather buy a Lamborghini and a pair of jubes brand new and the rest of the system for the same price 

Buy a used Porsche 997 or 997.2 instead, it's more versatile, has better handling and it's far more economical to run.

However,  it doesn't produce the glorious V8 or V12 hawl, but an exhaust mod works wonders in this respect.

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7 minutes ago, ARX said:

Buy a used Porsche 997 or 997.2 instead, it's more versatile, has better handling and it's far more economical to run.

However,  it doesn't produce the glorious V8 or V12 hawl, but an exhaust mod works wonders in this respect.

I'd probably buy an RS7 truth be told and a house instead haha. 

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i thought in these socialist utopias everything is free. Am I being lied to again?

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14 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:

I'd probably buy an RS7 truth be told and a house instead haha. 

 

An Audi? I presume you are aware of the impact on handling with the engine mounted in front of the front axle?

Anyway, this is not a car forum, so I'll stop here.

 

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