Old School Dual 1019 restored and spinning!

[ajoker2c]

I couldn't find my old thread since the site switchover,

In July I was walking home and stumbled across a local estate sale going on and scored a walnut veneered custom console that had a Marantz 2225 and Dual 1019 TT with an Empire 150 Cart with stylus with plenty of life left that was sitting idle for over 20 years. I bought it for 40 or 60 dollars (can't remember) and carried it home 2 city blocks. I dismantled it as my woodworking friend said it was too done in to restore.

I cleaned and deoxit the Marantz and is now working beautifully in the bedroom where I placed it in a 1969 Teak Normande console (that works but needs a little work done) and I replaced the original drivers with rb61's (that i bought cheap with rough cabinets) they slid in place almost perfectly. The Dual 1010 works but needs to be relubed.

Anyway, I took the 1019 base template from the original console to my woodworking buddy and he was excited to put together a new walnut plinth for the 1019. While he worked on it I had the 1019 refurbished and cleaned it up. Here is some pics of the 1019 in it's new home!

Total cost of the 1019 about 100$ for wood supplies and TT (free labour )

Just thought I'd share

Forgot to include that the Normande console (which I paid 140.00 for) had this Telefunken Reel to Reel in it which I think I'm going to test out on my 2 channel set up at some point, but I have no knowledge of R2R, but does work.

Edited December 13, 2013 by ajoker2c

[kaiser SET say]

Luv the plinth aj2, that was my first table Had a little electronic repair shop put a 5 pin DIN on it to go into my Grundig shortwave head unit

[Boxx]

These are great units. I have two that are in need of a good going over.

I can remember when my dad first bought one and the salesman demonstrated the unit by holding the turntable almost on its side and it could still play a record.

[ajoker2c]

Luv the plinth aj2, that was my first table Had a little electronic repair shop put a 5 pin DIN on it to go into my Grundig shortwave head unit

My 2nd table after a Kyrocera p701 that sounds wonderful as well. I'm struggling to let it go now and will probably hold onto it.

These are great units. I have two that are in need of a good going over.

I can remember when my dad first bought one and the salesman demonstrated the unit by holding the turntable almost on its side and it could still play a record.

What carts do you have on them? I have an extra carrier and just bought a Shure M97xE for spare and using the old Empire 150 and it sound fantastic. I have an extra Ortofon om 20 as well.

I saw that in the manual where you can tilt this TT but with the new plinth around 25 lbs I'll pass on that test lol

[rhing]

Very nice work indeed. I would love to get a good deal on a Dual 1019 or Dual 1229 and refurbish it. I think these are very nice idler wheel drive turntables. I have many fond memories growing up and hearing my uncles playing LPs on their Dual turntables.

Check the condition of the bearings if the TT needs to be re-lubed. A good soak and cleaning of moving parts in lighter fluid always helps. Also, use the recommended lubricants.

I did a complete teardown, clean-up, re-lube and rebuild of this Kenwood PC-400U belt-idler wheel drive turntable from the late-1960s. The bearing thrust plates were shot and I fabricated new ones from high wear, low friction Delrin (white discs). I used metal polishing compound to polish the spindles and bearings for the platter and the idler wheel. I used Rubber Renew on the rubber idler wheel to get it nice and rubbery again. I also rebuilt the original, stock Jelco SA-100 tonearm and rewired it using Cardas 33 gauge tonearm wire. The turntable is built a lot like a Thorens TD124, and now serves as my main turntable--lots of that good idler wheel magic.

[The Dude]

Very nice Joker, I think I remember the thread you posted when you picked this up. Did you clean and relube yourself or send it out to someone, which ever it looks nice. I watched a video how these things can work, seems to be very precise like a robot. I just sent my 1019 out to fixmydual.com last week, should see it back in a week or so. I to am building a new plinth/base for mine as it will go in my Bozak cabinet. I was going to buy the same Shure cart you did, but when I talked to Bill at fix my dual. I decided on a Shure V15 mark 2 as he stated that the weight of that vs others would have better results. Congrats again nice looking system. I have a Shure V15 mark 3 on my Thorens TD-166 mk2 and it sounds very nice. I can't wait to compare these 2 tables.

[The Dude]

heres a quick video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5UYqnZRb4

[The Dude]

By the way do you have any photos on how he built the plinth, I too removed the base from the United Audio plinth to use as a template. I would like to make some custom ones.

[Schu]

very nice work!!!

personally, I dnt think we see enough consoles any more.

[ajoker2c]

Very nice Joker, I think I remember the thread you posted when you picked this up. Did you clean and relube yourself or send it out to someone, which ever it looks nice. I watched a video how these things can work, seems to be very precise like a robot. I just sent my 1019 out to fixmydual.com last week, should see it back in a week or so. I to am building a new plinth/base for mine as it will go in my Bozak cabinet. I was going to buy the same Shure cart you did, but when I talked to Bill at fix my dual. I decided on a Shure V15 mark 2 as he stated that the weight of that vs others would have better results. Congrats again nice looking system. I have a Shure V15 mark 3 on my Thorens TD-166 mk2 and it sounds very nice. I can't wait to compare these 2 tables.

Thanks duder! I did clean it to the best of my limited ability , but brought it in to a qualified guy close to me to relubed everything necessary. He had to realign the idler wheel slightly as it wasn't keeping speed consistently. Everything runs beautifully now

I won't see my friend who built plinth till after new years, but I doubt he documented anything doing it. It is beautiful and heavy (approx 25 lbs). If you wanna see a shot of undercarriage let me kow and I'll snap a few.

I have extra carrier so I just picked up the m97xe from guy who refurbished it. I have the original on it now it's an Empire 150 and tracks great it seems. I also have a Stanton 500mkii that needs new stylus, so doing homework on suitable match for that as well.

Good luck with yours! I love this one and fits right into the old school look I was going for.

[derrickdj1]

Very nice ajoker 2c!!!

[ajoker2c]

very nice work!!!

personally, I dnt think we see enough consoles any more.

I'll get it restored eventually , but putting the Marantz and the rb61's in there sounds fantastic. I just turn on the Normande when I showed some friends so it looks like it's playing with the Marantz tucked away underneath....lol

The teak looks wonderful and is a solid unit

[The Dude]

very nice work!!!

personally, I dnt think we see enough consoles any more.

Don't mean to hi jack but since you asked, here is the Bozak cabinet that will house my Dual turntable, and either my Scott gear or McIntosh gear.

[ajoker2c]

2 channel system finally all put together:

McIntosh c28 preamp with walnut case
McIntosh M250 amp
Dual 1019 Turntable walnut Plinth
Maverick D1 tube DAC
Squeezebox Duet music server
Grado SR80i African Padauk wood headphones.
Antique piano stool

[The Dude]

Nice what record clamp is that, I sometimes wonder if they are worth giving a try.

[ryanm84]

Big thumbs up.

Clean and uncluttered with great looking components. I love the wood plinth and cases. Really classes up the equipment.

[ajoker2c]

Nice what record clamp is that, I sometimes wonder if they are worth giving a try.

I found it on Canuckaudiomart from a guy in Montreal. It is a custom one built with lead cylinder in middle. It is a lot heavier then the one that came with my Kyocera turntable. I can certainly see it flatten out Lp's but uncertain if I hear any sonic differences. Just looks cool spinning !

Duder, my friend did not take pictures during the Plinth build, but I can take some of the under carriage at some point. The plinth is around 25lbs total.

Big thumbs up.

I love the wood plinth and cases. Really classes up the equipment.

Thanks, it was the old school look I was going for since getting into 2 channel and getting my first McIntosh with walnut case as it looked classy. I just built the system around it being patient. I paid a little more then I wanted for the breadbox dustcover, but after seeing it I'm glad I did as it looks great!