Arky Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Oh great Youthman now I have to sound like I know what I'm talking about, I think the pressure may be to much ? You the man Youthman, always well thought out explanations and comparisons with great pics, people respect you because of how you are, a good guy you can trust, it's obvious just by the way you deal with everything. You don't need to do anything it's just how you are and it shows even in just typed words, you are in the right profession, kids need more of this. For a long time I have been wanting to say something to you just never did, and I really don't just pm people, I just say it where everyone can see it and they should and I am sure most know already. I joke, tease and make fun anytime I can but don't think I don't notice how many really good people are here and appreciate all of them, probably why I feel comfortable to say some of the things I do. (and I do control myself)....(alot) +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hey Dean.....I don't like Bob's cornscalas anymore. Can you fix them? Hey Bob......Dean said you screwed up my speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) CornScalas don't need "fixing", but I've revoiced a handful for some people who thought they were too bright or who wanted something more upscale. On a couple of occasions, Bob has been gracious enough to help me honor my warranty to people by testing and fixing issues. Both times he did it for no charge. I don't like the way Bob and Michael do some things and I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual. I think Bob does a better job of not letting the competitive part of the business interfere with the relationship. Edited April 28, 2014 by DeanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arky Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Well, he's older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 lol, yes, I think you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted April 28, 2014 Moderators Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yeah, and your ears ain't so good. You don't need to tell me, there hanging on by a hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truetreasure Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 youthman, great thread. would really like an update now that you have had the upgrade for a while. do you still think a little treble needs to be added? did the upgrade provide better sound overall or was it pretty much a wash? I guess the big question still looming is would spend the extra $$$ on your speakers to achieve what you have now versus what you had before? deang, kudos to you for trying an experiment in public. that takes guts. I will be contacting you for advice on some of my stuff. that is if you have time(lol). there is no second guessing that you do excellent work with great results. I wish I could have experienced this comparison first hand. all the best to both of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Has anyone ever ran a decent tube amp with the RF-7ll's I'm wondering how much this would tame the top end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Has anyone ever ran a decent tube amp with the RF-7ll's I'm wondering how much this would tame the top end Did you have room room treatments when you had them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 No and I still don't , but my current speakers sound perfect even with SS mono blocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted May 15, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2014 youthman, great thread. would really like an update now that you have had the upgrade for a while. do you still think a little treble needs to be added? I originally bumped up the treble on my receiver and it did help. I've been so busy with design projects that I haven't had too much time to sit down and just enjoy some 2ch listening. did the upgrade provide better sound overall or was it pretty much a wash? I don't think it was a wash because there is an improved overall sound in detail. I'll ask Wstrickland to pop in and share his thoughts on the RF-7ii's. I guess the big question still looming is would spend the extra $$$ on your speakers to achieve what you have now versus what you had before? I enjoyed the stock RF7ii and am also enjoying the change that the DeanG Crossovers have brought. It's not a total night and day type upgrade but as stated earlier in this thread, it's a cleaner, more precise sound, with slightly less bright sound than the stock RF-7ii. Dean shared with me on the phone that he knows how to modify the crossover to where it would not reduce the high frequencies as much. He said most people that he does XO work for ask him to "Tame the Horn". Maybe I'm weird (or going deaf) because I've always liked the bright, crisp sound of the horn so to my ears, I'm not sure the RF-7ii's need "taming". A1UC sounds as if he wants something that will soften the horn a bit. The original RF-7's are a different story. If I had the RF-7's as my main listening speaker, I would definitely want to have Dean tame the horn on it as it tends to be overly bright and harsh at loud volume. deang, kudos to you for trying an experiment in public. that takes guts. I agree, Dean took a chance but he also knows his work and is extremely knowledgeable at what he does. He is truly a craftsman and sounds like he has the ability to tweak the crossover depending on what you are looking to achieve in the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truetreasure Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Thank you youthman that is precisely the type of input I was looking for. I hope you enjoy your new sound. Thank you and Dean for this excellent project:) All the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalerf Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm running a decware TorriV 25wpc valve amp, I thought it would tame the horns a little, but to no avail, changed the valves to NOS mullards and telefunkens for a warmer sound, and the only big step forward was when I added a 1970's Audio Research valve preamp, turned the treble down a little, bass up a little and presto!!! I like the sound I'm getting now after months of experimenting. Nice bass and clear highs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted June 19, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted June 19, 2014 That seemed random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Has anyone ever ran a decent tube amp with the RF-7ll's I'm wondering how much this would tame the top end From what I understand, the "II"'s top end is pretty good as is. The original 7's needed a little tweaking however. Edited June 19, 2014 by CECAA850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted June 19, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted June 19, 2014 Thx for the reference to the original comment. Now his comment isn't random. From what I understand, the "II"'s top end is pretty good as is. The original 7's needed a little tweaking however. I personally did not find the RF-7ii overly bright. The original 7's definitely have more of an "in your face" type sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The original 7's definitely have more of an "in your face" type sound. More "Forward"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted June 20, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted June 20, 2014 Yes Shu, that would probably be the more technical way of describing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I just did a mod on the RF 7's. Dean G said it not what you hear, it is what you do not hear. Bright, metallic are words to describe the top end of the RF 7 by some people. I think a better term is shrill, especially at higher volume. The resistor mod is a very noticeable change for the better. With the mod or Dean G XO revision, the RF 7's are a definet keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_docta Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 This message is for @Deang and @Youthman ... I'm a 24 year old looking to make my first big speaker purchase. I found a set of (2) Original RF-7 and a RSW 15 for 1200 and ultimately steered away thinking I should hold out for the the newer RF-7ii as I thought his sounded a bit harsh at the highs. Should I consider buying these and having them upgraded? This is my first big system and I want to make sure I'm making the right choice. Any recomendations are greatly appreciated. I planned to use a Denon AVR-X3200W Reciever with these. Thank for your help guys, I've loved reading through your threads thus far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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