Schu Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) I never had a reference speaker from Klipsch so I really don't know how they sound. But I have to say those networks actually look pretty respectable. lean... Edited December 19, 2013 by Schu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 lean... Explain? Model, room, electronics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 the unit's I've had were lean sounding... thin and compressed. superb resolution though. I am sure any issue could be worked thru, but out of the box I liked the heritage better... call it personal preference. Now, for HT, I would want 7ii's... and will probably get them sometime next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2013 What reference models did you feel sounded lean? I can see how some of the smaller reference might sound that way. I prefer the RF7, RF83 and RF7ii over my previous forteii and chorusii. They have a huge soundstage, commanding bass and work very well for both 2ch and HT. Give them some solid power and they open up and shine even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 82's,83's,7's,3's... I've heard many. It's not my preference for 2 channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2013 Understood. It is all about preference. If you are ever in this area, you are welcome to stop by for a demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 oh for sure... I would NEVER steer anyone away from a reference piece. I would myself buy a pair, just not without having a heritage pair first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm just glad we have so many good choices and variety to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 A stock Lascala sounds leaner than an RF-7 because it can't dig near as deep. Same goes for a Heresy. Strong mids and highs, lows that leave something to be desired. Disclaimer, I own all 3 models mentioned and like them all. When you give a one word answer to how something sounds and it's not positive, it COULD steer someone away. Thin and compressed are words I normally associate with digital audio or output of certain receivers. It's also possible to have a synergy issue between components. It happens more often than you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 When you give a one word answer to how something sounds and it's not positive, it COULD steer someone away. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I ran my RF-7s in a pretty small room with all kinds of amps. To get any real bass out of them, I had to have them in the corners. I thought they were great for 2-channel listening, but strong, authoritative bass wasn't something they were very good at. Later, I ended up with Klipschorns, and of the course the Jubilees. If someone were to ask me how to compare the bass, I would say ... ...lean... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) that is my point... lean is a fair word if I was to choose one. lean does not mean lacking in resolution or crispness etc. the misunderstanding of the usage of that word is the issue, not the usage of the word and for some, lean might be a good thing. Lean... no fat, no extra, no coloration, striped down Edited December 19, 2013 by Schu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2013 That was funny Dean. I've been tied up and haven't had a chance to pull the woofers out to disconnect the crossovers. Maybe I can get some time this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 That was funny Dean. I've been tied up and haven't had a chance to pull the woofers out to disconnect the crossovers. Maybe I can get some time this weekend. I'm sure you know but removing woofers and or any driver in those is much easier when the speakers are on their backs. No chance of slipping drivers when you take the last screw out. It's infinitely easier to install them that way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) strong, authoritative bass wasn't something they were very good at. WOW. Was this with your PLX2? I'd almost wager that statement is amp dependent. Even RF-5's pound and go relatively deep with a hundred watts or two. Edited December 19, 2013 by CECAA850 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2013 My plan was to have my son help and to hold the magnet from the rear port to support the weight. If the speaker is on it's back, how would you remove the woofer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Straight up With the speaker on it's back, you can remove all screws without worrying about the driver slipping. Once all screws are out, use something plastic to pry one edge up. Put your finger tips underneath the edges and pull up. There's normally enough wire to set the driver on the cabinet to undo the connectors. That's another advantage of doing it this way. You don't have to hold the heavy driver while you're trying to remove the wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2013 Guess the key is finding something plastic LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackGTS Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Guess the key is finding something plastic LOL DON'T DROP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, on its back is the way to go. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Credit card might work. I have a hard plastic squeegee used for applying window tint that I grab for such tasks. Sometimes just your fingers work. Depends on how hard they're stuck though. As new as they are, you shouldn't have too much of a problem. i've done it both ways, speakers on their backs is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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