Steely Dan Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I currently have a pair of RF-82s, an RC-62 (just delivered last night!) and will add a couple of Rs-400s next year. I'm planning to replace my ancient Technics AVR and have been looking at the marantz sr5008 and harman 3700. It dawned on me that I don't really need many of the features of the marantz and harman avr's eg multi zone, multiple inputs etc, advanced Audyssey. i was interested in these units as I was thinking of buying an amp at some point down the road. I'm now thinking I should just buy a less expensive avr, specifically the denon e300, that should serve my needs for the next 5 years, understanding that I would need to buy a newer avr at that point. My only concern now is that will the denon e300 be powerful enough to drive my set up? This avr is rated at 75 wpc. My system is in a 14' x 14' room with 8 foot ceilings. The denon is currently on sale for $280, which makes it even more tempting. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kini62 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) I run my system off of 45 watts/channel and it will blow me out of the room. The e300 should be plenty unless you like to listen beyond reference volume. My room is about the same size- 13x14x9. Edited December 31, 2013 by kini62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Spend a little extra on this one http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVRX1000/DENON-AVR-X1000-5.1-Channel-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay/1.html Audussey xt is much superior than regular audussey. Or maybe you could call a couple online denon dealers and see if you can get the denon 1713 that I use. Same as the x1000 minus 4K (whoopee). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTB Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I have the AVR-300 and the RF-82 II. It drives these speakers perfectly, and I am very pleased with the setup. I use it for both 2 channel music and 5.1 HT. Greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have the AVR-300 and the RF-82 II. It drives these speakers perfectly, and I am very pleased with the setup. I use it for both 2 channel music and 5.1 HT. Greg Thanks guys - I pulled the trigger on an e300 today, everything's good so far but I need to do a lot of tweaking. Man, avr's have changed so much the last 15 years. Lol. Question for you guys - I'm not getting enough bass when listening to music. A guy on the denon forum said I should set my front speakers to small. I will certainly try it, but what do you guys set it to? Audyssey set my rf-82s and rc-62 to large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Do you have a subwoofer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I set mine to small and let the subs do their thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Do you have a subwoofer?Yes. It's a velodyne 12". Ive now set it all speakers to small. Seems to sound better. In addition, I manually increased the volume of the subwoofer. Audyssey set it at -12 db - I increased it to +10 db. Is that unusual? Am I bass deaf? LolAudyssey set my crossovers to 40hz for the fronts and center, and 80 hz for the surrounds, should I try to tweak this as well? Edited January 1, 2014 by Steely Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdit Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 your sub gain is too hot, turn it down and rerun calibration. Make sure the sub level is around +/- 3db not -12. You should turn on Dynamic Eq but leave dynamic volume off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 yeah turning your sub from -12 to plus 10 is insane. that would blow a normal sub i would think. especially if you were listening at higher volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) The bass may be way out of balanced in that system, even for a basshead. It is a good Ideal to never increase the gain by more than 6 db. Stuff under 30 Hz takes a lot of energy. Increasing the under 30 Hz stuff by 6 db decreases headroom by 50%. Stand back, something is going to blow! Edited January 1, 2014 by derrickdj1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I still need to do some additional tests, but I think I've found the reason why I'm not getting enough bass - Audyssey's website says the phase setting of the subwoofer should be set to 0 (this bit of info is not in the denon manual). I tried that and music sounded much better. I'll be re running Audyssey set up later when the kids are in bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Awesome. Hope that's what was wrong Edited January 1, 2014 by Scrappydue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Setting the phase to 0 indeed added a lot bass to both music and movies. I recalibrated my system and my sub results still gave me -12db. I turned down the volume to 25% and it brought it down to -7db. Still high but I can live with that for now. I might have to turn it all the way down to 10-15% as others have done. Thanks for all your suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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